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  1. 95spiderman

    95spiderman F1 World Champ
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    anyone know what the law says about new car lemons in ny? i have a 04 range rover with 4000mi that has had 2 unsuccessful attempts to fix air suspension problem. car sits 1-1/2 inches lower on driver side. might seem like minor problem but drives me crazy to spend so much and have car list like a sinking boat.
     
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    (1) If a new motor vehicle which is sold and registered in this state does not conform to all express warranties during the first eighteen thousand miles of operation or during the period of two years following the date of original delivery of the motor vehicle to such consumer, whichever is the earlier date, the consumer shall during such period report the nonconformity, defect or condition to the manufacturer, its agent or its authorized dealer. If the notification is received by the manufacturer's agent or authorized dealer, the agent or dealer shall within seven days forward written notice thereof to the manufacturer by certified mail, return receipt requested, and shall include in such notice a statement indicating whether or not such repairs have been undertaken. The manufacturer, its agent or its authorized dealer shall correct said nonconformity, defect or condition at no charge to the consumer, notwithstanding the fact that such repairs are made after the expiration of such period of operation or such two year period.

    (2) If a manufacturer's agent or authorized dealer refuses to undertake repairs within seven days of receipt of the notice by a consumer of a nonconformity, defect or condition pursuant to paragraph one of this subdivision, the consumer may immediately forward written notice of such refusal to the manufacturer by certified mail, return receipt requested. The manufacturer or its agent shall have twenty days from receipt of such notice of refusal to commence such repairs. If within such twenty day period, the manufacturer or its authorized agent fails to commence such repairs, the manufacturer at the option of the consumer, shall replace the motor vehicle with a comparable motor vehicle, or accept return of the vehicle from the consumer and refund to the consumer the full purchase price or, if applicable, the lease price and any trade-in allowance plus fees and charges. Such fees and charges shall include but not be limited to all license fees, registration fees and any similar governmental charges, less an allowance for the consumer's use of the vehicle in excess of the first twelve thousand miles of operation pursuant to the mileage deduction formula defined in paragraph four of subdivision (a) of this section, and a reasonable allowance for any damage not attributable to normal wear or improvements.

    (c)
    (1) If, within the period specified in subdivision (b) of this section, the manufacturer or its agents or authorized dealers are unable to repair or correct any defect or condition which substantially impairs the value of the motor vehicle to the consumer after a reasonable number of attempts, the manufacturer, at the option of the consumer, shall replace the motor vehicle with a comparable motor vehicle, or accept return of the vehicle from the consumer and refund to the consumer the full purchase price or, if applicable, the lease price and any trade-in allowance plus fees and charges. Any return of a motor vehicle may, at the option of the consumer, be made to the dealer or other authorized agent of the manufacturer who sold such vehicle to the consumer or to the dealer or other authorized agent who attempted to repair or correct the defect or condition which necessitated the return and shall not be subject to any further shipping charges. Such fees and charges shall include but not be limited to all license fees, registration fees and any similar governmental charges, less an allowance for the consumer's use of the vehicle in excess of the first twelve thousand miles of operation pursuant to the mileage deduction formula defined in paragraph four of subdivision (a) of this section, and a reasonable allowance for any damage not attributable to normal wear or improvements.

    (2) A manufacturer which accepts return of the motor vehicle because the motor vehicle does not conform to its warranty shall notify the commissioner of the department of motor vehicles that the motor vehicle was returned to the manufacturer for nonconformity to its warranty and shall disclose, in accordance with the provisions of section four hundred seventeen-a of the vehicle and traffic law prior to resale either at wholesale or retail, that it was previously returned to the manufacturer for nonconformity to its warranty. Refunds shall be made to the consumer and lienholder, if any, as their interests may appear on the records of ownership kept by the department of motor vehicles. Refunds shall be accompanied by the proper application for credit or refund of state and local sales taxes as published by the department of taxation and finance and by a notice that the sales tax paid on the purchase price, lease price or portion thereof being refunded is refundable by the commissioner of taxation and finance in accordance with the provisions of subdivision (f) of section eleven hundred thirty-nine of the tax law. If applicable, refunds shall be made to the lessor and lessee as their interests may appear on the records of ownership kept by the department of motor vehicles, as follows: the lessee shall receive the capitalized cost and the lessor shall receive the lease price less the aggregate deposit and rental payments previously paid to the lessor for the leased vehicle. The terms of the lease shall be deemed terminated contemporaneously with the date of the arbitrator's decision and award and no penalty for early termination shall be assessed as a result thereof. Refunds shall be accompanied by the proper application form for credit or refund of state and local sales tax as published by the department of taxation and finance and a notice that the sales tax paid on the lease price or portion thereof being refunded is refundable by the Commissioner of Taxation and Finance in accordance with the provisions of subdivision (f) of section eleven hundred thirty-nine of the tax law.

    (3) It shall be an affirmative defense to any claim under this section that:


    (i) the nonconformity, defect or condition does not substantially impair such value; or
    (ii) the nonconformity, defect or condition is the result of abuse, neglect or unauthorized modifications or alterations of the motor vehicle.

    (d) It shall be presumed that a reasonable number of attempts have been undertaken to conform a motor vehicle to the applicable express warranties, if:

    (1) the same nonconformity, defect or condition has been subject to repair four or more times by the manufacturer or its agents or authorized dealers within the first eighteen thousand miles of operation or during the period of two years following the date of original delivery of the motor vehicle to a consumer, whichever is the earlier date, but such nonconformity, defect or condition continues to exist: or

    (2) the vehicle is out of service by reason of repair of one or more nonconformities, defects or conditions for a cumulative total of thirty or more calendar days during either period, whichever is the earlier date.

    (e) The term of an express warranty, the two year warranty period and the thirty day out of service period shall be extended by any time during which repair services are not available to the consumer because of a war, invasion or strike, fire, flood or other natural disaster.

    (f) Nothing in this section shall in any way limit the rights or remedies which are otherwise available to a consumer under any other law.

    (g) If a manufacturer has established an informal dispute settlement mechanism, such mechanism shall comply in all respects with the provisions of this section and the provisions of subdivision (c) of this section concerning refunds or replacement shall not apply to any consumer who has not first resorted to such mechanism. In the event that an arbitrator in such an informal dispute mechanism awards a refund or replacement vehicle, he or she shall not reduce the award to an amount less than the full purchase price or the lease price, if applicable, or a vehicle of equal value, plus all fees and charges except to the extent such reductions are specifically permitted under subdivision (c) of this section.

    (h) A manufacturer shall have up to thirty days from the date the consumer notifies the manufacturer of his or her acceptance of the arbitrator's decision to comply with the terms of that decision. Failure to comply with the thirty day limitation shall also entitle the consumer to recover a fee of twenty-five dollars for each business day of noncompliance up to five hundred dollars. Provided, however, that nothing contained in this subdivision shall impose any liability on a manufacturer where a delay beyond the thirty day period is attributable to a consumer who has requested a replacement vehicle built to order or with options that are not comparable to the vehicle being replaced or otherwise made compliance impossible within said period. In no event shall a consumer who has resorted to an informal dispute settlement mechanism be precluded from seeking the rights or remedies available by law.

    (i) Any agreement entered into by a consumer for the purchase of a new motor vehicle which waives, limits or disclaims the rights set forth in this section shall be void as contrary to public policy. Said rights shall inure to a subsequent transferee of such motor vehicle.

    (j) Any action brought pursuant to this section shall be commenced within four years of the date of original delivery of the motor vehicle to the consumer.

    (k) Each consumer shall have the option of submitting any dispute arising under this section upon the payment of a prescribed filing fee to an alternate arbitration mechanism established pursuant to regulations promulgated hereunder by the New York state attorney general. Upon application of the consumer and payment of the filing fee, all manufacturers shall submit to such alternate arbitration. Such alternate arbitration shall be conducted by a professional arbitrator or arbitration firm appointed by and under regulations established by the New York state attorney general. Such mechanism shall insure the personal objectivity of its arbitrators and the right of each party to present its case, to be in attendance during any presentation made by the other party and to rebut or refute such presentation. In all other respects, such alternate arbitration mechanism shall be governed by article seventy-five of the civil practice law and rules.

    (l) A court may award reasonable attorney's fees to a prevailing plaintiff or to a consumer who prevails in any judicial action or proceeding arising out of an arbitration proceeding held pursuant to subdivision (k) of this section. In the event a prevailing plaintiff is required to retain the services of an attorney to enforce the collection of an award granted pursuant to this section, the court may assess against the manufacturer reasonable attorney's fees for services rendered to enforce collection of said award.

    (m)
    (1) Each manufacturer shall require that each informal dispute settlement mechanism used by it provide, at a minimum, the following:


    (i) that the arbitrators participating in such mechanism are trained in arbitration and familiar with the provisions of this section, that the arbitrators and consumers who request arbitration are provided with a written copy of the provisions of this section, together with the notice set forth below entitled "NEW CAR LEMON LAW BILL OF RIGHTS", and that consumers, upon request, are given an opportunity to make an oral presentation to the arbitrator;
    (ii) that the rights and procedures used in the mechanism comply with federal regulations promulgated by the federal trade commission relating to informal dispute settlement mechanisms; and

    (iii) that the remedies set forth under subdivision (c) of this section are awarded if, after a reasonable number of attempts have been undertaken under subdivision (d) of this section to conform the vehicle to the express warranties, the defect or nonconformity still exists.

    (2) The following notice shall be provided to consumers and arbitrators and shall be printed in conspicuous ten point bold face type:


    NEW CAR LEMON LAW BILL OF RIGHTS

    (1) IN ADDITION TO ANY WARRANTlES OFFERED BY THE
    MANUFACTURER, YOUR NEW CAR, IF PURCHASED AND
    REGISTERED IN NEW YORK STATE, IS WARRANTED
    AGAINST ALL MATERIAL DEFECTS FOR EIGHTEEN
    THOUSAND MILES OR TWO YEARS, WHICHEVER COMES
    FIRST.

    (2) YOU MUST REPORT ANY PROBLEMS TO THE
    MANUFACTURER, ITS AGENT, OR AUTHORIZED DEALER.

    (3) UPON NOTIFICATION, THE PROBLEM MUST BE
    CORRECTED FREE OF CHARGE.

    (4) IF THE SAME PROBLEM CANNOT BE REPAIRED AFTER
    FOUR OR MORE ATTEMPTS; OR IF YOUR CAR IS OUT OF
    SERVICE TO REPAIR A PROBLEM FOR A TOTAL OF THIRTY
    DAYS DURING THE WARRANTY PERIOD; OR IF THE
    MANUFACTURER OR ITS AGENT REFUSES TO REPAIR A
    SUBSTANTIAL DEFECT OR CONDITION WITHIN TWENTY
    DAYS OF RECEIPT OF NOTICE SENT BY YOU TO THE
    MANUFACTURER BY CERTIFIED MAIL, RETURN RECEIPT
    REQUESTED; THEN YOU MAY BE ENTITLED TO EITHER A
    COMPARABLE CAR OR A REFUND OF YOUR PURCHASE
    PRICE, PLUS LICENSE AND REGISTRATION FEES, MINUS A
    MILEAGE ALLOWANCE ONLY IF THE VEHICLE HAS BEEN
    DRIVEN MORE THAN 12,000 MILES. SPECIAL
    NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS MAY APPLY TO MOTOR
    HOMES.

    (5) A MANUFACTURER MAY DENY LlABILITY IF THE
    PROBLEM IS CAUSED BY ABUSE, NEGLECT, OR
    UNAUTHORIZED MODIFICATIONS OF THE CAR.

    (6) A MANUFACTURER MAY REFUSE TO EXCHANGE A
    COMPARABLE CAR OR REFUND YOUR PURCHASE PRICE IF
    THE PROBLEM DOES NOT SUBSTANTlALLY IMPAIR THE
    VALUE OF YOUR CAR.

    (7) IF A MANUFACTURER HAS ESTABLISHED AN ARBITRA-
    TION PROCEDURE, THE MANUFACTURER MAY REFUSE TO
    EXCHANGE A COMPARABLE CAR OR REFUND YOUR
    PURCHASE PRICE UNTIL YOU FIRST RESORT TO THE
    PROCEDURE.

    (8) IF THE MANUFACTURER DOES NOT HAVE AN
    ARBITRATION PROCEDURE, YOU MAY RESORT TO ANY
    REMEDY BY LAW AND MAY BE ENTITLED TO YOUR
    ATTORNEYS FEES IF YOU PREVAIL.

    (9) NO CONTRACT OR AGREEMENT CAN VOID ANY OF THESE
    RIGHTS.

    (10) AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE ARBITRATION PROCEDURE
    MADE AVAILABLE THROUGH THE MANUFACTURER, YOU
    MAY INSTEAD CHOOSE TO SUBMIT YOUR CLAIM TO AN
    INDEPENDENT ARBITRATOR, APPROVED BY THE
    ATTORNEY GENERAL. YOU MAY HAVE TO PAY A FEE FOR
    SUCH AN ARBITRATION. CONTACT YOUR LOCAL
    CONSUMER OFFICE OR ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE TO
    FIND OUT HOW TO ARRANGE FOR INDEPENDENT
    ARBITRATION.

    (3) All informal dispute settlement mechanisms shall maintain the following records:


    (i) the number of purchase price and lease price refunds and vehicle replacements requested, the number of each awarded in arbitration, the amount of each award and the number of awards that were complied with in a timely manner;
    (ii) the number of awards where additional repairs or a warranty extension was the most prominent remedy, the amount or value of each award, and the number of such awards that were complied with in a timely manner;

    (iii) the number and total dollar amount of awards where some form of reimbursement for expenses or compensation for losses was the most prominent remedy, the amount or value of each award and the number of such awards that were complied with in a timely manner; and

    (iv) the average number of days from the date of a consumer's initial request to arbitrate until the date of the final arbitrator's decision and the average number of days from the date of the final arbitrator's decision to the date on which performance was satisfactorily carried out.


    (o) At the time of purchase or lease of a motor vehicle from an authorized dealer in this state, the manufacturer shall provide to the dealer or leaseholder, and the dealer or leaseholder shall provide to the consumer a notice, printed in not less than eight point bold face type, entitled "New Car Lemon Law Bill of Rights". The text of such notice shall be identical with the notice required by paragraph two of subdivision (m) of this section.
     
  3. 95spiderman

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    eeesh! thanks. is it true that 4 attempts is all dealer gets to fix problem?
     
  4. Stackhouse

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    I'm no lawyer but IMO I would contact the factory rep or regional rep and see if you can get it resolved that way.

    Good luck

     

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