Ford GT40 vs Ferrari Again

I think the yellow car is the best.
I just wish Ferrari would bring out a retro racer for the street

 

Hey, Mark, what is that car that's next to the F40?

--Matt

 

Pagani Zonda I want to say.

 

This issue has been talked about AT LENGTH here on F-chat.

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well, to venusone's defense, she did post some really cool pics!!!!

do you know what chassis # that GT is?

doody.

 

Great car, IMO. However; the dealers that I have spoken with pretty much have them all sold in the 225-250 range.

 

if you'd like to read some useful data about the upcoming GT, surf over to http://www.gt40s.com/ . you can read my many diatribes about how the pricing is going to pan out. they're going to satisfy the pent up demand and the pricing is going to tumble. these poor souls paying huge premiums will get burned unless the flip immediately.

doody.

 

I'm sorry you just can't compare a FORD to a Ferrari, no matter the performance

 

The Ford gt40 will lose anyway!!

 

Why not?
The article in Car&Driver was pretty brutal. The GT40 was faster around the track than the 360 at less cost.

It is one thing to laugh at "stupid" American sports cars with lots of hp but no balance (insert Viper here). But it is different if that American muscle car actually sets low lap times.

Granted it ain't no Ferrari, but a GT40 retro car is still cool in my book. And yes, I wished Ferrari would do the same and come out with a retro LM for instance.

 

I have always been an Fcar nut. But ever since I saw a real MK1 GT40, I couldn't get it out of my mind. These cars are truly sexy. This may be blasphemous, but I sold my 355 and bought a CAV Gulf Mk1 replica. If the new GT is anything like this car, I will tell you it will bring out just as much, if not more racing passion than your favorite Ferrari. They are very fast, wide, low and very raw. I think its about time an American manufacturer did something like this.
Let me put it another way...

Can you imagine a reincarnation of a 330 P4 for the price of a 360?

 

That's like having the best piece of chicken of your life, then snubbing it because it isn't "free range."

So... yes, one can compare a GT40 to a comparable Ferrari.

 

Well assuming most people buy into the FCar Mystique, you can't compare. Ford never had it, never will, as will no american made car. Like I said, it's not all about performace.

 

F-chat is all about the Mystique guys vs. Reality guys

 

Yep I suppse so, and that's OK

 

What I can't understand is why Ford had to revert to a retro car to get anybody to look at the thing. Even then they haven't been honest to the original in pretty much every way so it's basically a modern day fake. Sure it's fast, handles well and puts the 360 a little in the shade on the track but is that really such a big deal - I could do that by taking a mass produced Ford and putting NO2 on it.

To be honest I really just don't get it. The original car was great and remains so and it and it's designers etc. have been devalued by what Ford are doing today

 

Interesting topic, GT-40, I have seen them but have not had a chance to drive one. I personally like the dark/mustard yellow with the black stripes. I believe all said about the car who have test drove them and lapped them around the track that, "it is faster than the Modena". So what? Yes, it looks great but it is kind of cheesy inside with all those toggle switches and funky leds or purpule/blue lights. O.K., it is faster than Modena, a car that is in its 5th year of production. It is interesting how all newly born sports cars are being compared to Ferrari 360. Why is that? I am a car lover and I like the GT40 for what it is not because it is a Ferrari beater. I challenge Ford to continue their R&D to introduce performance cars like Ferrari does. But will it ever have the heritage. A company which was built on the merits of mass production to make cars affordable for the masses vs. a car company who builds cars to finance its racing team... This is not meant to bad mouth Ford, I am merely pointing out the fact the two cars are different and they continue to be different no matter which one comes out with the faster car...

Cheers,

 

guys - don't bash on ford too much here. they saw a marketing opportunity and they're taking it. kudos for them for maximizing the value of their history and past brands.

of course they wanted to do this and they chose this angle. it's not in their nature to build cars like this (well, at least it hasn't been for 30+ years). they are abstractly capable - for sure (i imagine Ford's annual R&D budget is more than Ferrari's gross street-car sale revenues) - but they seem extremely culturally constrained (all the big guys seem to operate this way - it's very sad that big american companies can't make this good stuff happen more regularly).

the new GT is an impressive car. it was designed impressively fast. apparently designed impressively well, and it's purportedly going to built to very solid standards (april 29th production supposedly starts at the Wixom MI plant where the Lincolns are built).

maybe this is the shot in the arm that Ford needs to get into this segment and innovate inside of it. who knows - we might see cooler and even better things from them in 2008 and 2012 and beyond.

doody.

 

word. its not like Ford has any plans to compete with Ferrari every year until kingdom come, like what doody said its a marketing attempt to see if Ford can enter the exotic car category dominated by Ferrari. there is no need to fear with the hints of the 420 any way

 

It's a replica.

 

I think they have been successful so far if they are getting $50 -$70k over sticker in the dealerships. I am not in the market so I wouldn't know. But, they should also put a more positive spin in their marketing campaign than continously bash Ferrari and how they can beat them at the track, so what...