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Petition to access all 9500 RPM on the Competizione

Discussion in 'F12/812' started by 575joe, Aug 31, 2021.

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  1. omercan

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    812 comp

    Power 830 Hp @ 9250 rpm.
    Power per litre 127.8 Hp/l
    Torque 692 Nm @ 7000 rpm.
    510.39 lb.-ft. @ 7000 rpm.
    Maximum engine speed 9500 rpm.
     
  2. MaranelloAllTheWay

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    Omercan - by your line of thinking, GT3 should redline at 8600 rpm. Why do you think it has 400 rpm more to go?
     
  3. omercan

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    It interests me that GT3 is dead after 8500, Porsche is deceiving people.
     
  4. MaranelloAllTheWay

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    No need to get immature. Lets leave brand names out of this. Conversation here is engines have max rpm figures that are published by the manufacturer of each. 812 does not seem to be hitting that max rpm for some reason. Its a waste of our time to deny this as several dozen owners in this forum spoke to this in several threads. And it seems that 812 isnt the only model, 488 exhibits this behavior as well.

    On a side note, I dont think you understand physics and mechanical engineering as much as dressing up a Ferrari. Every car has a peak hp rpm that differs from max rpm. This is by design as engineers have to factor in the dropped rpms in next gear maintaining peak power/torque - this is the point you seem to miss. I recommend spend a bit more time in wikipedia than you do here sending me instagram links before we can have a productive conversation.
     
  5. omercan

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    are you blind
     
  6. omercan

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    You are right on 488, but you are talking big nonsense on 812.
     
  7. MaranelloAllTheWay

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    Ok. My patience has run out. Sorry Omercan, it doesnt look like we can communicate even at a basic level.
     
  8. omercan

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    You are a Porsche fan who cannot be taken seriously. I showed you videos of gear shifting between 8800 and 9000 rpm. How old are you? Is it like 10 or so?
     
  9. MaranelloAllTheWay

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    There is no reason to insult me. Please explain to the number of owners in this thread and multiple other threads in 812 forum that was created by different owners (and those other threads had other owners all say the same thing) that they are all wrong and that their car is broken and your car and the guy from instagram has properly working 812s. Because clearly I am not making this up, there are just way too many owners bringing this up for it to be a coincidence.

    Perhaps car does rev to 8900 but it does so under very controlled conditions that Ferrari does not disclose. It could be related to knock sensor readings, oil temperature, transmission fluid temperature, and many other variables that to retain the integrity of the engine or other drive train components, they limit revs to 8600. It could be second order vibrations under certain conditions are detrimental to the car. It could be million other reasons, we dont know. Because Ferrari is Ferrari, they are mysterious in ways they disclose information like how no one on planet earth can buy a car that weighs as low as their advertised weights. Perhaps their weight is based on some theoratical Atalier car weight, who knows?

    There is no reason to bring Porsche into this other than to mention that their cars rev to their advertised limit under all conditions and the weights they publish are the weights you and I will get.
     
  10. craze

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    Isnt it normal to have soft limit and hard limit? The lower value is where it cuts
     
  11. MaranelloAllTheWay

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    I'm not sure. I have never had a soft limiter in any of the cars (sports cars and normal cars) I have owned.

    There is actually even a longer thread in 488 forum on this (linked above). It's very strange. Ferrari should call it 8600 rpm redline and be done with it. There is no harm in stating the actual redline.
     
  12. Altoria F

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    Interesting to see how the gears are shorter than the F12´s are.
    For example with a lower redline (I shift @ 8500) the F12 pulls >220kph end 4rth
     
  13. Ngcanada

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    I think the only one insulting is you. You have done the same in other threads and your tone is obvious that you seem to think you want to buy an 812 but you are the one who keeps bringing other brands into the conversation. Either you are talking and comparing a Porsche or Maclaren to the 812, and your disdain about the 812. I do not think Ferrari ownership is for you. You are combative and very negative. Maybe Renns is the forum you should try out. Lots of Porsche lovers there.


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  14. MaranelloAllTheWay

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    I dont agree with your perspective but lets agree to disagree. I will do my best to not make this about brands - was not my intent. Can we get back on to the topic of the actual observable redline of 812?

    How about this - what would Ferrari do if an owner took their car in for service stating it doesn’t reach advertised/specified redline and initiate a request for explanation from Maranello? Maybe there is a mechanical explanation for this behavior.
     
  15. omercan

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    I showed this man that he is doing 8900 rpm, he still continues to write, in the Instagram link I added, he shifts between 8800 and 9000 rpm, the car is in ct-off mode.
    https://www.instagram.com/p/C0fvE-ltxaT/
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  16. MaranelloAllTheWay

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    This “man” did ask you to look at these links but perhaps you didnt so let me repeat:

    Omercan - please read this : https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/posts/147479337/

    Rest of the thread from page 7 : https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/812-gts-driver-feedback-please.626157/page-7
     
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  19. Solid State

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    That screen shot is 87xx not 89xx. Do you guys even own a Ferrari?
     
  20. omercan

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    I don't have an 812 but I rented it in Dubai in 2020, I hope you don't have an 812 because you don't know anything about your car, it's very sad.
     
  21. Lagunae92

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    Also not a stock 812, so who knows...
     
  22. Solid State

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    Listen my friend who rents Feraris. For the very last time, the screen shot you posted below is 87xx not 89xx. This same tach has been used since 2009 and still in use today. Some of us here have been starring at it in our cars for just as long. You cannot read this dial and, even worse, you cannot be educated. Please learn to take instruction at some point in your life. Congratulations, you have entered the ignore zone.

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  23. omercan

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    My ignorant friend, if you can't see that 8800 has passed, you are blind. Who are you to ignore me?
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