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1956 Ollon-Villars 750 Monzas

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  1. ERault

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    Gentlemen,

    I am wondering which 750 Monza Trintignant raced at the 1956 Ollon-Villars hillclimb (august 26). Perhaps somebody can help ?
    For the record, he beat Wharton and Jonneret on their regulars Monzas, but specialist Daetwyler was faster yet and gained another overall victory with 0548M, ahead of Maglioli's Maserati 250 F.

    Thank you, and best regards from France.
     
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    Jonneret - 0486M
    Daetwyler - 0548M
    Wharton - 0514M
    Trintignant - 0520M (?). Trintignant was a works Ferrari driver in 1956 so should have had access to just about anything, can we be sure it was a 750 Monza? I was going to suggest #0568M (which Trintignant raced earlier in '56) but that was racing at the Swedish GP the same weekend. The only French owned 750 Monza racing in '56 was #0520M so maybe he borrowed it from Picard?
    Magioli - 250F #2515
     
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    #4 Aardy, Aug 16, 2023
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    I thought to 0520M too (the Scaglietti spyder S2 on the pic above doesn’t look red) but the Scuderia Ferrari badge is missing on the fenders.
     
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  5. Sempre_gilles

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    I have 0584 M renumbered to 0578 (a 857 Sport), which is unlikely since already regulalarly raced by de Portago)?
     
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    The 857 S had large side vents. The picture above shows a Scaglietti spyder S2...
     
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    It seems that Trintignant was a late entry, as he is not mentioned in the official race program. Does anyone know his race number?

    For an event report, see Autosport:
     

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    On this screenshot, you can see the side vent is the classic one for a Scaglietti Spyder S2.
    On August 1956, 0552M already had large side vents due to a rebody so not this one.
     
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    Of the 33 750 Monza, at least twelve (#0492M, #0494M?, #0496M, #0498M, 0502M, 0504M, 0510M, 0538M, 0554M, 0562M, 0570M, 0582M, 0586M) were in the Americas, another one in Australia (#0462M). #0524M was in Portugal. #0508M & 0576M had been destroyed. #0526M, 0470M, 0568M and 0518M were all in Sweden for the Grand Prix that weekend, #0486M, #0548M, #0514M were driven by their owners at Ollon-Villars. That only leaves

    0440M - French owned and unused that weekend!
    0496M - Owned by Alfonso de Portago (fellow Scuderia driver) and unused that weekend!
    0500M - Mystery between late '55 and '60s but probably in Sweden
    0516M - Believed written off at the Supercortemaggiore in '55
    0520M - Owned by Rosier who was a team manager as well as race driver, unused that weekend!
    0522M - Almost certainly already in USA
    0530M - Italian owned but unused that weekend!
    0550M - unknown history beyond April '56 when it didn't appear at the Giro di Sicilia
    0552M - Owned by Harry Schell but kept in Europe and not used that weekend!
    0578M/0584M - Possibly (unlikely) still owned by Scuderia Ferrari before sale to Whitehead
    0584M/0578M - Another of de Portagos cars. Unused that weekend!

    Still more likely to be #0520M but could be either of the de Portago cars, more likely #0496M since it was unused at the time with de Portago racing his newly acquired 857S #0584/0578M.
     
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    Again, you can forgot the 857 S. Their large side vents don’t fit with the pictures above. Same thing for 0552M which had different side vents.
    It’s true the car with the closest cockpit design + hood is 0520M...
     
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    My vote goes for 0520M. Would like to find a confirmed photo of 0520M properly showing that "letterbox type" air inlet in front of windscreen, but yeah: the windscreen setup looks identical, color is right and Rosier's fatal accident 2 months later would perfectly explain why there are no later pics of such a car.
     
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    If I compare the pic of post #14 with that of post #10, the leather strap to close the hood seems missing?
     
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    Hyères 1955. 0520M was not there.
     
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    Ah, yes - silly. Several photos incorrectly labelled
     
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  20. ERault

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    Am I right thinking Pierre Meyrat raced Rosier’s 0520 M in 1956 (I have Paris 1000 km and Bari in mind). If so it reinforces the idea that 0520 M was available to some French drivers on a rent a drive basis, which could include Trintignant as discussed here.
     
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    It’s true Trintignant raced some monoposti and Talbot Lago from the Écurie Rosier the previous years so who knows ?
     
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