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FF values. What's going on?

Discussion in 'FF/Lusso' started by puckybadger, Apr 18, 2018.

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  1. IDriveM5

    IDriveM5 F1 Rookie

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    I think well cared for FF’s and Lusso’s in the $50-60k range is a stretch of the imagination. Agreed that they do need a certain kind of buyer, heck my first Ferrari was a mid engine V8 Rosso Corsa / Beige car, traditional Ferrari. But nowadays, there is a lot more variety from which to choose. I like the FF because it gets me into a V-12 at an affordable price point plus it fits the size of my family properly. My kids love going places in the FF.
    Maybe, a risk to FF & Lusso values will be the upcoming SUV, if it’s really good, people might forget about the awesome 2+2 cars that essentially paved the way.
     
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  2. Way2fast

    Way2fast Formula 3

    May 24, 2006
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    Anyone is welcome to my 2012 FF with 48k miles for $150k

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  3. ScottS

    ScottS F1 Rookie
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    Lusso prices strong as well got offers from dealer and others.

    Don’t think 60k will ever be a FF or Lusso price for a good one just like a good 612 will hit 75 but not lower. More low interest money and a good deal of us did t spend during covid as well as market profit for many.

    The suv no matter how good will not be for many of us. The thing is most of us have FF or Lusso for family stuff and other toys whether Ferrari or other flavors so these cars are not for the same use case. I love my Lusso. But would I choose it over my 812? Probably not.


    Lastly with maximum depreciation these cars are tempting entry into Ferrari and many choose to combine those roles.



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  4. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 World Champ

    Agreed - they are fine depreciating and are likely the last v12 ever since It’s basically the same in ff/f12/812


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  5. FerRrari

    FerRrari Formula 3

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    I think the Purosangue will be excellent and I hope it’s a huge success. However it’s probably going to be over $300K plus options so it’d take a while for it to depreciate enough and apply downward pressure on FF and GTC4Lusso prices if any at all. An FF at $90 or $80 is formidable value when you think about at that price point today you’re talking about new M3/4.
     
  6. aureux

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    I'm pretty sure the depreciation is over, just like the 458. They are only going up from here. Prices on FFs have risen since late 2020. A realistic FF for 100k now is a pipe dream.
     
  7. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 World Champ

    WoW u are going to beat records with it!


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  8. IloveGT

    IloveGT Formula 3
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    was driving it home yesterday after the FF finished its 5th annual service. Man, I love this car. I was driving my 458 to Laguna Beach, dropped off the 458 and picked up the FF on the way home. Man, the authentic V12 noise is just so addictive, blew the 458 exhaust note out of water. Absolutely best car for the money.
     
  9. evanmcm

    evanmcm Karting
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    Jun 15, 2009
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    Whether these prices are "organic" or not, I don't see things changing any time soon. Really not sure how they could get down much below 80k or so even in the far future for "high-mileage" examples...inflation is here, and it's real. It's not "transitory" by any means. Add to that the massive supply chain issues world-wide in almost every industry, I don't see really any used car that's even somewhat interesting going down in value much this year or even next. Having said all that...the prices some of these FFs are being listed at are laughable. Many dealers have been caught overplaying their hand, I think.

    Also...utterly discouraged by how many US market FFs are black inside or out, or, horror of horrors, both...
     
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  10. Way2fast

    Way2fast Formula 3

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    Starting my 430 doesn't seem the same after FF. Always fun to start FF when people are walking by. They always jump a little

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  11. ttforcefed

    ttforcefed F1 World Champ
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    haha...with a full novi you literally scare the **** out of people with a cold start
     
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  12. IloveGT

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    now I can start to imagine why audiophiles can start so much money for the stereo system.
     
  13. Moopz

    Moopz F1 Veteran
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    I love the bark of a cold start with the V12. My 430 has a sport exhaust and it doesn't come close to the stock Lusso cold start. The neighbors even notice.

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  14. HBstig

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    It made up for the options with extended warranty, new DCT unit, extensive and anal maintenance and pristine paint, ding, scratch free paint protected by PPF and ceramic coating. Low inventories and the new forced induction, lower displacement/cylinder era is dictating older v12's to go up in value. It took me 2 years to find this example with no pano roof in red. I guess there are plenty of people out there that have similar tastes and others who hate that on FF's.
     
  15. HBstig

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  16. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 World Champ

    I think it was a nice car for sure but plenty of cars have maintenance, dct replaced etc. Additional warranty isn’t hard to get.
    It’s a strong market that’s it.


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  17. plastique999

    plastique999 F1 Veteran
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    Any updates ?


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  18. dgoldenz94

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  19. ftrjz

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    I could be wrong, but didn't a 2012 Canna di fucile over iroko car just get sold via Mike's post for 137k? Seems like the same car to me. That's a hefty, hefty markup CPO or not...
     
  20. dgoldenz94

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    I thought it might have been that same car as that seems like a fairly rare color combo. I remember last year when there were a couple of similar mileage 2012's certified that just sat for weeks/months at $115-125k.
     
  21. ftrjz

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    Insanity. I'm a year late to the market :(
     
  22. dgoldenz94

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    The 458 market is even more nuts...priced me right out of consideration for one.
     
  23. dustywusty

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    Jan 11, 2017
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    If anyone wants my Nero 2012 for $150k let me know, it's apparently a steal.
     
  24. plastique999

    plastique999 F1 Veteran
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  25. andyrichter

    andyrichter Karting

    Jul 18, 2017
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    I’m looking to purchase a white or blue FF if anyone’s thinking of selling. Thanks
     

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