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  1. Senna1994

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    Completely uncalled for with the Racism, this is about racing.....
     
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  2. lagunacc

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    Both LH and AH are leveraging. Did so at MCL with Alonso, doing so now.
    Sweep the REAL issues under and bully people into silence.

    He'll leverage the UK flag and any other flag that serves that purpose.
    Like the UK media pumping nationalism left and right, then acting surprised when the stuff hit the fan after England lost to Italy.
    Not to mention the Economist's shameful leveraging against the Italian team.

    The overwhelming majority of the criticism LH received was not insulting nor hateful, whether xenophobic, racist, etc.
    But sure, let's focus on the < 1% and eulogize poor LH, the eternal victim.

    Gaslighting 101


    Horner: the only positive is that Max seems to be ok.
     
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  3. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 World Champ

    U my friend are wrong.
    The real issue here is racism. The rest is sports. That’s all it is sports. I saw plenty of hate for Hamilton on this forum over the years so I’d also beg to differ on the overwhelming majority…
    No point in discussing further imo. This is just a sport we are talking about. A sport for rich people and where only rich kids participate.
    Racism is the only issue here, the rest should be solved by sporting institutions.


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  4. E60 M5

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  5. william

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    This was already discussed after the Azerbijan GP.

    Yes F1 allows interventions on cars between the 2 races after a red flag.
     
  6. JJ

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    And, welcome to P&R.
     
  7. lagunacc

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    Real issue: LH put the WDC leader into the tires at near 200mph --> potential injury or death.
    Trying to sweep that under is irresponsible.
     
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  8. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 World Champ

    It’s a sporting issue.
    Like I said no need to discuss further, if u think this is more important than the rest so be it. It says more about u than me on that one.
    Like Max says : we move on.
    Hungary is a new race.


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  9. ricksb

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    There is always the specter of selective outrage. Max has had his share of similar dustups...nobody could anticipate his off being so hard.



    As was said earlier, this is a sporting issue. A predictable one, but a sporting issue nonetheless. It does, though, eliminate the sentiments around racism being absent from the F1 fan mindset.
     
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  10. spirot

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    I think the accident was a racing accident. unfortunate and very dangerous but an accident. Hamiltons behavior after the race ... that is different. and I've lost respect for him. He has time to man up, but sadly I don't think he sees anything wrong... the message it sends to kids in Karting is shove off your competitor - does not matter if they get hurt or not... that is "hard racing" ... and in my book that is BS.
     
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  11. jpalmito

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    I think he has something in common with Schumacher. As soon as the situation becomes dangerous in terms of competition, he’s perfectly capable of borderline moves. The big difference is that Michael did not spend his time giving moral lessons to the whole world..
     
  12. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 World Champ

    That’s fair enough. I do see Hamilton at fault too.

    I am assuming you then don’t hold in high regards Senna , Schumacher or Max then who have all resorted in their careers to those dubious moves?
    I mean as much as Ayrton is my idol his 1990 move on Prost was close to what Lewis is blamed for. Less dangerous for sure but the gap wasn’t really there.
    I don’t think MS saw anything wrong for a long time with his 97 move either or for putting barrichelo (almost) in the wall in his merc days… yet lots still idolize the man;)


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  13. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 World Champ

    He certainly did not ;)))
    I’ll never forget 97… talk about sportsmanship…not!


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  14. jpalmito

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    This same day I was crying because of the lost title for the Scuderia but I have to admit that was a pretty disgusting manœuvre by Michael ..
     
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  15. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 World Champ

    Can’t cry for this;)
    I wish u had been next to me when I met him in car week a few years back, definitely not someone so friendly I’d cry over/for;)
    Forza Ferrari!


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  16. jpalmito

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    I was crying for the scuderia.
    And the huge work done by the whole team and Michael.
     
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  17. william

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    What made this incident spectacular was the proximity of a wall.
    If there had been a large run-off zone, like a grassy area, where the car could spin without hitting anything, we wouldn't even be talking about it.
    Perez, Leclerc, Verstappen even and many others created similar incidents
     
  18. william

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    LOL
     
  19. jpalmito

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    Quel dommage que vous ne soyez pas un romantique !
     
  20. ricksb

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    Ayrton's 1990 move (assuming Suzuka, the Sequel) was very much intentional. Since he was assigned the dirty side of the track as the pole winner, he refused to allow Prost to pass, running him off at Turn 1.
     
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  21. william

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    He confessed it a year later.
    Senna was convinced there had been a plot by JM Balestre, the FIA president, to favour Prost, another fellow Frenchman, by switching the pole position spot on the grid at short notice, and without any consultation.
    Senna wanted to punish Prost, but also Balestre!
     
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  22. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 World Champ

    It’s always the french’s fault!


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  23. ricksb

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    More support to Lewis Hamilton
    Though Hamilton is yet to react to this incident, other teams have already stepped in to show solidarity with Hamilton against the racial abuse.
     
  24. william

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    Prost is my favourite driver of all times, so there is no anti-French bias in my comment.

    Having said that, he had a well known special "relation" with Balestre .

    No way of knowing with certainty, but they consulted each other several times over the years, and that must have infuriated Senna whilst he was competing against Prost.
     
  25. Mitch Alsup

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    Said Cornwallis at Yorktown..................
     
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