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Discussion in 'Creative Arts' started by jm2, Oct 19, 2012.

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  1. energy88

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    Instead of selling off brands they may just become trim levels or cease to exist. Each of these 3 have a history but not sure there would be a buyer that would pay money to acquire their nameplates.

    Even Ferrari jettisoned Maserati. It could have been their reinvented Dino/Porsche fighter but seemingly even they saw that as a dead end.
     
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    I think China or a deep pocket enthusiast from the middle east would be the main chance. To get into what they consider the premium markets they might buy Maserati or maybe Alfa. China does that more than Japan or Korea. Those two like to build their own fake high end brand names mainly for the American markets.

    Not sure if that would be better or worse.
     
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    I thought is was a new Mercedes at first.
     
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    That's exactly what I thought!
     
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    #12033 NeuroBeaker, May 13, 2021
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    I mistook the Genesis G90 for a new Lincoln Continental and the Genesis GV80 for a new Mercedes GLE/GLS. Although they are evoking the feel of other cars, the designs have a tidy overall aesthetic about them and the styling features aren't too finnicky. I think they're doing a really nice job. I don't recall seeing Genesis cars previously as they just didn't stand out for me, but I'm noticing them more and more on the road now.

    All the best,
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    Not very many dealers in the USA. I believe they have only about 1/5th the number of Lexus dealers. The nearest dealer to me in Virginia is ~2 hours away, which is a deal breaker.
     
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    Its more Mercedes than Mercedes these days
     
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    I think this is quite good especially in profile. In fact I think the Genesis designers could justifiably be a bit put off by it being mistaken for the EQS...
    Glad to see they toned down the light signature from earlier this year.
     
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    And now for something completely different. Jony Ive gives his advice to a graduating class of creatives.
    Sir Jony Ive's 2021 CCA Commencement Honorary Doctorate Address

     
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    THOUGHTS ON A REPLICA SWB FERRARI
    DESIGN CRITIQUE
    I don't think GTO Engineering ever wanted their Squalo ,a coy of the Ferrari swb 250GT, to be an exact replica but more the "essence" of the original. Here's my take:

    SIDE They cleaned up the original. The side vents seem rather too highly placed than on the GTO and they are GTO not SWB. The wheels are 18 inches tall and look like nothing Ferrari ever ran to my knowledge. There's no visible door handle. I'd want them in case I crash--how's a rescuer supposed to open the door? The rear fender vents are from 250GTO series II, again mixing metaphors so to speak.

    FRONT Again cribbing from the 250GTO with the elliptical hood air intakes on the bonnet--why steal from another model (other than the maker's name is GTO Engineering? The double bubble roof theme stolen from Zagato is something I don't remember seeing in a Ferrari so agin it's messing with history. I don't mind no grille but the road lamps in the grille are too jarringly modern to fit a '60s theme.

    REAR The rear looks daring with no rear bumper--would you want to park a million dollar car on the street with no bumpers? No chrome round the rear backlite tastefully modernizes it. I like the inset taillamps but the pictures aren't high enough res for me to see if they copied the lenses exactly.

    IN SUM It's a well balanced attempt at making available a slice of design history to today's aficionados now that the real swb's are priced out. But why mix and match different Ferrari design cues in one car? The tall wheels are the biggest mistake.
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    Low profile tires and the 'wide track' look distract from the classic look. Though big wheels allow bigger brake rotors potentially. The other details mentioned have been tried before like the double bubble top and the front lights by Ferrari in a manner of speaking. Though sunken tail lights don't seem to be a benefit except again to clean up the body like the missing door handles.
    With that said it probably drives like the old car but better.

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    GTO build a "Singer" 250. Not a fan.

    How you can take so many (very) expensive Ferrari parts and build something that looks to be an (also very) bad kit car is beyond me. In fact, if you were to delete the roof, the 3/4 rear looks very much a Cobra replica.
    For some reason I find that the "halo" lights in the grille are particularly egregious to my eye, but the enormous wheels are a close second.

    If one must do this sort of thing, Eagle do a much better job of it with their E-types as do Singer with their 911.
     
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    I really dislike the Zagato double bubble roof at the best of times, but the way the ends of the bubbles are unresolved into the rear glass is really irritating.

    The wheels aren't terrible, but it's strange having such busy and sharp shapes in the wheels of an otherwise such smooth design. I might have tried something with rounder shapes in them, being period correct doesn't seem that important on something that isn't trying to be a copy/replica, so you can go more modern on a homage/interpretation:


    Otherwise, it's a very nice retro design paying homage to the original. Overall, I really like it. :)

    All the best,
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    So it's 'double bubble roofs' you have a problem with? ;)

    These are from 1989-90 for a Pontiac Grand Prix. What can I say? Guilty as charged. We wound up not doing the 'double bubble', but it wasn't for a lack of effort.;)

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    Put a nice clean traditional roof on that and it'll probably make it into production. ;) :D

    All the best,
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    Hey, there's a great idea!

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    I like a good double bubble, what I don't like about this double bubble is that it gives the roof too much forehead. There is too much metal above the windshield.
    There is plenty to like on the car and things I would nit pick. Some 250's have the kink in the top of the side glass, some do not. I would prefer without. The worst thing to me is the tailights.
     
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    Yeah, the surfacing and profile (Of the body, not the roof) are more Cobra than Ferrari!
     
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    The competition!
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    I still really like that design. I think you did a great job with it. :D

    All the best,
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    Thanks, one of my favorite projects.
    I was blessed with an awesome team. We worked hard & played harder.
     

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    A sign of the times. The designers weren't wearing jackets but still had ties on. The clay modelers were in smocks.
     

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