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Hamilton deserves more respect

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  1. Mitch Alsup

    Mitch Alsup F1 Veteran

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    What about that little qualifying incident at Monaco ?
     
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  2. jpalmito

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    The day he lost control of his car at the rascasse in 2006 just before the end of qualifying session?:D
     
  3. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 World Champ

    In fine you are right but I’m sorry you are still wrong. Those guys have not been beaten. Come back when their records are beaten.
    Additionally you are comparing apple and oranges for the guys whose records DID get beat, as u pointed training is different, knowledge is different, there are more races every years, guy start younger so you can’t compare or at least compare fairly.
    And I’m a former probaskrtball player so I know my history. Bill Russell- 11 titles, 13 season. U are picking the wrong person to talk basketball to lol


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  4. jcurry

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    Could someone direct me to the Hamilton Sucks thread. I'm lost.:D
     
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  5. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 World Champ

    It’s been renamed by a mod


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  6. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 World Champ

    He lost his cool to my main man jaques Villeneuve in 97. I Rmbr being so happy when Villeneuve overtook him.


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  7. jpalmito

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    I remember almost crying because of the lost title for Ferrari.
    With hindsight this maneuver was not glorious (like Monaco in 2006), and irony Villeneuve admitted later he was way too fast in the turn and without the crash with Michael he would have finished in the gravel trap..
    Monaco 2006 obviously cost Michael the 2006 title too because without the penalty he would have finished at worst the race in second position.
     
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  8. furoni

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    I didn't cry that time, i was just angry at him...but i did cry when Ayrton trammed Prost at Suzuka...that was just so unfair and dirty, and unlike Michae's it was premiditated wich makes it a lot worse
     
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  9. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 World Champ

    Well both 1994 and 97 from
    Michael were intentional.
    He deserved the 94 title as the better driver for sure But he should have lost it... had hill been more patient schumi was done.


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  10. jpalmito

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    #435 jpalmito, May 4, 2021
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    You’re right, the Suzuka « attack » in 1990 will remain as the worst move in the history of F1 world champions. We must remember that the whole grid was launched at full speed on this first high-speed curve.
    Very very dangerous.
     
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  11. furoni

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  12. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 World Champ

    He deserved it but 94 was totally shameful what he did in Australia. Never liked the dude, met him in Monterey and he was a complete prick just like the man he was on tv.


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  13. furoni

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    ..Others would desagree....he was certainly ruthless as a driver but, as a person he was very much praised by those who knew him and worked with him. He was also someone who did a lot for charity and unlike others, tried to do it in the shadows.
     
  14. jpalmito

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    Indeed things are not as Manichaean.
    Fact is that he was totally adored by a good part of the scuderia and this was not due only to his results.
     
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  15. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 World Champ

    Doing charity doesn’t make anyone a good person lol


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  16. furoni

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    I supose not, but i can't stop feeling respect for someone who gives something (even if for him mean little) without expecting something in return, mnay give many, but they aren't shy about it.
     
  17. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 World Champ

    I don’t believe many do it expect nothing in return, just to give so that the conscience is clear is in itself an expectation, isn’t it?


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  18. subirg

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    Respect where it’s due, well done to Ham on reaching 100 poles. Love him or hate him, that’s one hell of a record.
     
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  19. 355TDI

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    All one hundred poles were achieved because of self driving AI in the McLaren and Mercedes AMG cars. Hamilton’s talent, skill, consistency and nerve had nothing to do with it :)


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  20. william

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    Yet another denier trying to dismiss Hamilton's achievement.

    It makes you wonder why Hamilton's team mates didn't make better use of the same "self driving" equipment.
     
  21. 355TDI

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    It’s called British sarcasm, sorry you didn’t get it. I was actually poking at Hamilton’s detractors who argue with hard cold facts to push their agenda.


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  22. Top speed

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    Was it fair when Alain did it the year before in Suzuka 1989? Prost decided to take the dirty way to championship, so I can't feel sorry for him when revenge hit back a year later. Ayrton used some dirty tricks, but Prost was no angel himself (though his fans like to paint a picture of him as clean and innocent driver). I have huge respect for both as drivers; but both the played the same game. Bashing Senna alone for those incidents is revionism at its finest.
     
  23. jpalmito

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    Senna had made a habit of forcing the passage with Prost, knowing that the Frenchman would yield.
    Just before Suzuka 1989 Prost had openly announced that this time he will not leave the door open and that is what he did.
    The turning point was the 1988 Grand Prix of Portugal where Senna almost sent him into the wall of the stands at more than 280 km/h when Prost wanted to overtake him. This episode also affected 1989 and 1990.
     
  24. Top speed

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    True, my point was that both had an ego that didn't take a loss well. And the driver this thread is focused on, also has that kind of ego.
     
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  25. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 World Champ

    Another masterclass from Lewis and Mercedes today .


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