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At the end of qualifying today, Vanzini commentator on Sky Italia and Lewis longtime fanboy has said: « Now no one can dispute that Hamilton is the greatest driver of all time. « Does not agreeing with that kind of statement make me a hater? At the same time, can I acknowledge that Lewis is a great driver while knowing that the circumstances are simply exceptional in his favour? I still think that the record (WDC) he will have at the end of his career will simply be disproportionate to his real talent.
It also keeps RB on the same strategy and minimizes the chance of an overtake via by RB pitting early.
That is the only play - go longer on soft or pit early to attempt a pass and run on hard or medium with hope they last. Max said tire management will be key.
On a good day journeyman. Again see what Ricci and Norris said last year about this 'journeyman' More like family journey lol
No need for personal insults. @jpalmito is making the very obvious and logical comment that if the historical greats—imagine Clark, Stewart, Lauda, Prost, Senna, Schumacher—had a car for an unheard of 7 straight years (of up to 20 and 20+ races a year) that won almost every race and pole position, with a teammate that offered little or no competition for the last 4 years, they also would have had a pretty good chance to rack up the number of wins, poles and championships HAM has accumulated. Numbers alone are not the measure of greatness. It’s just math.
In all objectivity, there is no other measure than numbers and stats in F1. Trying to compare drivers who competed in different eras is simply subjective. Greatness is just a feat of imagination, and everybody can have a different one.
Hey Mitch - Be careful of crossing lines with insults. Let's not direct any negative comment towards users. Thanks! GT
If Senna, Prost or Schumi had the best car for 7 years and the same amount of races, and broke records, would that lessen their talent level?
That’s where I think u have a point. People are mad their heroes have their records broken by Hamilton and live in the past . I have 0 doubt senna smashed Hamilton over a season...not a single doubt but it’s a different era. It’s a business. It’s not just a sport like it might have been years and decades ago. So what is Hamilton supposed to do? Go to a bad team. Let’s try to see what we would do. Say you are offered ur ideal job with the most money in ur favorite city and every year u have fun, would u leave to move to say Cleveland to take on a new lesser job just for the sake of a new challenge ? Most likely no one would. The notion that athlete should be loyal to one team, seek new challenges when it’s too easy etc... it’s nice but it belongs in the past. It’s not like this in the 2010,2020’s those guy want to have it all and have it all and approach this as a business where their images and endorsements are key to them. Do I wish Hamilton had a better teammate and took on challenges like Alonso and even Vettel did? Heck yeah but I can’t really fault him for playing it safe. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Try following the discussion and I think you’ll understand the point being made and maybe answer your own question.
Well said Sir. However Hamilton did not play it safe going to Mercedes IMO. Mclaren and Ferrari were the most recent F1 constructor's champions. Merc had not won since the 50s, (correct me if i'm wrong). That took guts, everybody thought he was crazy.
The simplistic view often used is that car performance and driver talent are seen as communicating vessels. More of the one by default excludes more of the other. Look up what is known as the the fallacy of the alternative disjunct: success in the life of rich kids MUST be because of their golden spoon and CANNOT be due to their inidividual talent, Hamilton's records MUST be because of Mercedes' dominance and CANNOT be because he is one of the most talented drivers out there. The most enjoyable moment of qualifying was the moment Crofty called Russell "Mr. Saturday" for successfully reaching Q2 (to park it on P15) and then swiftly moved on to Hamilton's 100th pole record, without him noticing any irony!
I don't think anyone is seriously disputing that Hamilton has talent. Obviously he does. With Vettel's fall from grace one has to conclude he's the best of his generation (''generation'' is a broad term, I'm basing it on drivers that entered roughly at the same time. For example Raikkonen and Alonso are a different generation than Lewis). I disagree that Lewis is a true GOAT simply because the level of competition he's had has been lacking. No, it's not his fault that he's driving a car that simply has no real competition for the past 8 years. He's been beaten by teammates that he shouldn't be beaten by too often. I can go on but it's nothing that hasn't been said before and the 2 camps (goat or not goat) will NEVER agree either way so wasted keystrokes.
Indeed at the time I thought he had gone mad. The truth is that he had the real informations about the huge investment that Mercedes was going to put in its Formula One project. Nevertheless it was a risky move and a very good bet!
Not really when all the facts are laid out properly. Lauda told Lewis exactly how intense the developments of Mercedes where and what their goals where. The size of the team, the senior staff organizing the whole show (all proven guys time and time again). Mercedes was Mclaren's partner for years but this investment was waning off. Mclaren when Lewis joined them was the Mercedes factory team, Mercedes when they bought Brawn became the factory team. Follow the money.
I know this for a fact, but now I’m just trying to be a little friendly with my opponents. I just hope I don’t get insulted every time there’s a disagreement.