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488 Pista Crash

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  1. FerrariFR33458

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  2. xBox

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    Very sad to see.

    Have to stay aware of what we are driving, specially when trying to deploy full throttle.
     
  3. SoCal to az

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    Wtf?? How did that happen? Must have hit an oil slick
     
  4. wthensler

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    Ouch......that was almost too easy.
     
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  5. Mikestradale

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    “The crash of the Ferrari 488 Pista was due to a technical defect in the left rear suspension tie rod bushing. The driver couldn't help it. In the video you can clearly see that the rear wheel is folding out of the wheel arch. I have examined the suspension myself.”

    Slow motion of the technical failure:
    https://www.instagram.com/p/COiZJoTp6-A/

    More videos of the suspension:
    https://www.instagram.com/p/COiftnyJeiR/

    Not my words. This was posted by dutch racing driver Junior Strous
     
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  6. technom3

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    Hmmmmmm
     
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  7. FFan5

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    The back left wheel clearly impacted the curbing. Examining the suspension after that impact to the curb isn't helpful.

    FWIW, that just looked like a car with ESC Off got away from someone. It looks the same way when an F1 driver does it on the outlap in the rain. It is nothing to be embarrassed about, but I'd guess the suspension broke when it was smashed into a curb. I've bent a rear axle from a gentler slap against a curb.
     
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  8. technom3

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    Ya... The fact that there are two parallel black marks on the ground indicating lost rear traction.

    Looks like the driver ran out of talent at a high speed.
     
  9. bakes17

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    Pista is a very spiky car to drive actually. The tail will move in race mode on a straight like that very easily and he looks like he just overcorrected.


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  10. Dicecal

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    Especially with cold Cup 2s or Cup 2 Rs..o_O
     
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  11. SECRET

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    Guess it'll get more interesting as the cars move to independent 4 wheel steer!
     
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  12. Solid State

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    Lots of videos just like this over the years. Too heavy foot, cold tires and driver overcorrection. Suspension gave out when it smacked the concrete and jumped the curb.
     
  13. axlesofevil

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    Hmmmmmm is right! :p
     
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  14. technom3

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    I think the ego broke before the suspension piece did. Lol
     
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    ESC off?


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    Something is turned off. Clearly see 2 tire marks.
     
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  17. RayJohns

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    Hard to say about the mechanical failure with the tie rod stuff.

    I'd be interested to know what the outside temp was and if the tires were warm or cold. Long, slow, straight roads usually don't heat up your tires that well.

    I wrecked my motorcycle once and the main factor was I had allowed the tires to cool down, then jumped back on the bike and took a long straight stretch home that didn't put any heat back into the tires. First corner and lost the back end at almost 70 MPH. Hit a dirt embankment and concrete gutter and almost killed myself; several broken bones and concussion. I had fresh tires on that took more time to heat up than the previous brand I had been using.

    My guess would be either the mechanical failure outlined above and if not that, then cold tires were a contributing factor once the turbo kicked in. If you watch the video, it looks like he counter steered correctly but had zero grip in the front tires.

    Ray
     
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  18. GT2goneF

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    I felt that in all my bone marrows!!!! I even feel guilty as if I somehow caused it.
     
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  19. GT2goneF

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    I agree.
     
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  20. technom3

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    That's cold r compound tires spinning and the back stepping sideways. Just as heat gets out in the tires and gaining traction suddenly.... Which accelerates you towards the wall where pointed. Coupled with an over correct and then a big ole dose of brakes to complete the pirouette
     
  21. kryten2001

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    Don't believe what your eyes and common sense tell you, it was verified by a "dutch racing driver!"
     
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  22. Mikestradale

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    The latest news is that the driver was arrested for DUI.
     
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  23. v35

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    Sounds like he lifted off the throttle + overcorrection.
     
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  24. XSpeed

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    it doesn't sound like he pushed the throttle too much. something is odd there.
     
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