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  1. tazandjan

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    #51 tazandjan, May 5, 2021
    Two engines gives you much better roll control, too. We knew they would get there eventually, and this is only the upper stage.
     
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    #52 BJK, May 26, 2021
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    "I think this is what puts the "Super" in Superheavy:"


    (basic rendering only of 'business' end of 1st stg Booster) Blue = O2 and Green = CH4
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    #55 jcurry, May 30, 2021
    Wonder what the margin is for losing engines, i.e. how many can they lose and still meet requirements.
     
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    #56 BJK, Jun 5, 2021
    well done animation. (playback speed 2x ;))



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    #64 Jacob Potts, Aug 6, 2021
    Sorry to be a Debbie Downer, but the view of all those engines brings strong memories of the Soviet N1.

    Starship Booster

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    #65 tazandjan, Aug 6, 2021
    Difference is the Soviets were trying to use differential throttling for directional and roll control. Starship's booster has 9 engines (8 + 1) with gimbals for much more positive control.
     
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    #68 spicedriver, Aug 7, 2021
    Probably a good idea to buy some life insurance before you fly in that monster.
     
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    #69 BJK, Aug 7, 2021
    It's going to be a while before anyone flies in it. There will be many test flights, then Starlink satellite delivery missions, maybe a moon orbit/landing demonstration first. Or human orbital flight before moon?

    The first Falcon 9 flight was in 2010, then first Crew Dragon (passengers) in 2019. Getting Starship 'human rated' is going to be hard. Right now, I don't think an abort system is planned.
    Unacceptable for NASA (and insurance co.)?

    BUT, they have massive head start and 'lessons learned' with Falcon 9 / Crew Dragon. Musk has always fast tracked development. Build, fail, fix til they get it right.

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    #70 spicedriver, Aug 7, 2021
    I believe Musk first put forth the goal of a cargo mission to Mars in 2022, and a crewed mission in 2024. But he has since pushed those back 2 years. So he plans to launch a crewed mission to Mars in 2026, with the goal of building a permanent human settlement.

    Perhaps something like this ?

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    #71 tritone, Aug 7, 2021
    Having read Kim Stanley Robinson's Red Mars, Green mars, Blue Mars, I would be surprised if MarsTown were so much out in the open. I would expect much more drilled/blasted into the mountain sides, so less susceptible to strikes.
    Yeah, I know, it's just scifi at this point.........:D
     
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    #72 BJK, Aug 7, 2021
    caves and lava tubes ;)
    https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/life-unbounded/the-1000-caves-of-mars/

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    #73 jcurry, Aug 8, 2021
    'life insurance' is a funny term, as it does nothing for you if you die
     
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    #74 tritone, Aug 8, 2021
    Yeah, maybe "life assurance" would be more helpfull......
     
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    #75 BJK, Dec 15, 2021
    What's the plan? This :) :cool:

     
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