Not at all, but it's too early, I have to keep a loyalty. These are the last cars with the V 12 line which retains the Ferrari spirit. So yes, as it has been said, the Monza had to be a one off, before S. Marchionne saw it and decided to make a series of it. This is how the "Icona" concept was born. So, we focus on what remains more faithful, even if it is not an accessible range.
When the F40 launched, there was nothing quite like it. It had many “firsts” and rarely seen components for a street car. To this day, I’m still amazed by the Kevlar and CF on that car; it was like a space shuttle. The modern interpretation of the F40 as posted above, just seems like an homage design and certainly not worthy of an F40 badge. To me, the new F40 should bring the same level of innovation (or more) and “specialness” as the original F40 did. Frankly speaking, the modern interpretation is neither beautiful or timeless and certainly not very unique as its basically a revised design based on the original. I’m thinking there would be some kind of hybrid component to what ever the f40 turns out to be. While I’m a huge proponent of the NA V12, I don’t see it being the engine of choice for an F40. Perhaps Ferrari should take a page from Koenigsegg. The Gemera has a 3 cylinder engine with over 500hp and three additional electric motors for a total of 1700hp plus all sorts of other crazy innovations. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
Completely agree but if they built one like the Gemera it would be the hypercar and not icona. Willing to bet whatever the next icona is its just a rebody like the Monza but perhaps with a windshield.
Agreed. I don't see Ferrari dropping their hybrid technology after investing so much money on it just to "save weight" (if It's based on the SF90 platform, of course). It would be as extreme and light as mechanically possible..but still a hybrid.
the closest thing to an F40 built in the last few years in my opinion is a mclaren Senna. so if Ferrari want to take back the crown for a non-hybrid bonkers track demon, then they need to follow that path, and beat it. which to me means, v8 twin turbo, weighing 1000kg, and minimal comforts, and maximum track ability. Ferrari has all the ingredients to do that already....now they just need a great body to drop on top. it should be easy to make a car better looking than the senna....
Closest platform for such a project would be an extreme, stripped out, almost GT3-like Tributo. However, since some people have said, a while ago, that Ferrari planned something special for the SF90, my guess is that they were referring to a Stradale-based "Icona" model. With or without the hybrid system, that remains to be seen.
Sf90 drivetrain without the hybrid is not possible. The gear box has no reverse. So a gt3 like f8... Is basically a pista. So your looking for a pista like f8... Which... They sorta already made which is why they may not be doing an f8 "pista/stradale/scud/speciale"
Agreed, a SF90-based Icona without the hybrid system is not likely. When I said GT3-like Tributo, I was thinking about some sort of road-legal Modificata. Still based on the 488/F8 platform/drivetrain, same engine (possibly with more HP) and extreme aero but with a F40-inspired bodywork. Just thinking out loud, not sure it's doable.
I'm just going to say that I hope that Ferrari doesn't make with the F40 the same that Lamborghini did with the Countach. I like classics, not nechrophlia.
from autopareri.com Image Unavailable, Please Login google translation Yes, the future Icon that will be presented in November will use the carbon monocoque borrowed from LaF and the V12 without HyKers. It will be inspired by the Ferrari 330 P4 and will be unveiled during the Ferrari Finali Mondiali which will take place from 16 to 22 November '21. Someone even caught a glimpse of it moving in Maranello covered by a cloth, confirming that the volumes recall the historical model. The V12 used will be that of the current 812 Competizione, with probably a few more hp and not the new one under development. November will be an interesting month for the proposals of the Italian brands
The engine from the 812 Competizione… + a few more hp. Wow I really wonder how they will manage this! This V12 is not over
Regarding the design, I’d be curious to know what James Glickenhaus will think about a 330 P4 look, as he commissioned the P4/5 based on the Enzo a few years ago, and already inspired from the P4. Apart from this I’ll really curious to see how Ferrari will manage to get the spirit of the P4 with the size of a LaF and the today’s homologation criteria.
Thanks! So the new V12 is tested with the 488 mule as already noted by varryx. Strong clue of a rear mid engined 812 SF replacement ?
If true, that sounds like an exciting car. It should be pretty light and for once the focus is not on maximum power and 0-300 irrelevant times. I also think that using the LaF tub takes it one level higher than models based on regular production cars…Can’t wait to see it… Sent from my iPad using FerrariChat
He got mad at DeTomaso for their P72, wonder if he'll get mad at Ferrari and Manzoni as well Oh, and by the way, the P3/4 is Manzoni's favourite model, I'm sure he'll do a wondeful job.
Not sure what‘s there to get mad about. Ferrari own the P4 design and brand, they can do whatever they want with it (if that is indeed what they want to do) Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
Yet another 'can't get any more power out of that F140 engine' contradiction courtesy of Ferrari. For the record we are at 830 CV, 6.5l, and 9,500 rpm with the 812c. Ferrari makes engines.
Or maybe that was done on purpose to « limit » to 830hp but knowing they could go to 840hp for example, so that they could communicate they finally could ad a few more for the next model. Marketing strategies