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NEW MID ENGINED V6 (LITTLE BROTHER)

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  1. Ale55andr0

    Ale55andr0 Karting

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    Finally the thread is resurrected. Too bad it turned into Tesla Thread o_O
     
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  2. dustman

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  3. Senna1994

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    With the introduction of the 812 VS and the May 5 embargo done, two more months to go until we see LB.
     
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  4. rxbg

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    hello all. close to pulling the trigger on an F8 but intrigued by this car. i am not thrilled by the hybrid aspect of it, but i also am not crazy about the F8 front end. also- something tells me this new car is going to be significantly faster than the F8. i do believe it will make more power than it and be lighter. like mclaren light. based on the price point the publications have quoted their sources saying it makes sense too.

    so- i think the F8 will not be made after that. it wouldn't make any sense since both cars would be two seaters of nearly same dimesnion and power. it sounds like the new car will be more powerful than the artura so it will cost 50K more. that makes sense too.

    i am holding my deposit for now and hope this car is announced soon.
     
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  5. buddyg

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    No way it's lighter than the F8. Batteries are heavy!
     
  6. rxbg

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    they're making a big deal about the state of the art lightweight materials. shorter wheelbase. also- it's just a batter pack not an entire battery engine. plus- its ferrari. so yeah- i think it's for real. definitely won't be heavier than an F8.
     
  7. dustman

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    Cant trust F pr for the weights though.
     
  8. buddyg

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    Yeah we sill see.
     
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  9. red passion

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    As the ca r will be based on an aluminium structure, I can’t see how it can be lighter than the F8.
     
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  10. SoCal to az

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    They decided to go try carbon tub for LB.
     
  11. Divexxtreme

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    Really? That's interesting. It might just be be lighter than expected.
     
  12. buddyg

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    You know this for sure?
     
  13. red passion

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    I would be more than happy to be wrong. Some people here who usually are well informed stated that LB will have the same alu structure than the SF90.
     
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  14. SoCal to az

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    yes. 100% sure. Enzo told me. ;)
     
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  15. SoCal to az

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    I’m joking bro.
     
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  16. Ale55andr0

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    for sure it will weigh more than a f8, but "not too much" I guess: 2 less cylinders, smaller tank, no front e-engine (?), less powerful rear e-engine (that means smaller battery than SF-90). My bet is a combined power of ~750hp and a bit faster than 488 pista 0-100/0-200
     
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  17. renzone

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    My bet is that it won't have, I hope, a less powerful 3-liter 6-cylinder engine than the Maserati Mc20. So I hypothesize thermal death from 650hp, plus the electric motor, total 750-760hp and a dry weight not exceeding 1420kg.
     
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  18. renzone

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    The F8 tribute has a dry weight of 1330kg, the Mclaren Artura dry weight 1395kg, but the Artura has a carbon tank. It will be hard to stay under 1400 kg dry, we hope.
     
  19. Divexxtreme

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    Dammit! You had me all excited for a minute there!
     
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  20. day355

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    Dry weight means absolutely nothing!
    Weigh the F 8 with fluids and gasoline and you will be on the real weight of the car, that is to say around 1580 kg ...
     
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  21. renzone

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    Ferrari has always supported the use of aluminum for the frames, as a better cost-benefit ratio on production cars, leaving the use of carbon fiber to limited series cars. However, the production of the SF-90 Stradale gives me hope, given that it is equipped with a mixed frame, aimed at containing the weights, trying to contain the burden of the weight of the electric and I hope we will follow the same path for LB.

    Here is an excerpt from this source on the chassis of the SF-90 Stradale:

    https://corporate.ferrari.com/it/ferrari-sf90-stradale-la-nuova-supercar-di-serie

    "The frame has been completely redesigned with a multi-material and multi-technology approach, especially to withstand the higher stresses resulting from the new power unit and the introduction of all-wheel drive. Thanks to the use of innovative technologies, such as the hollow castings to replace the traditional ribbed castings, and of new contents, such as the bulkhead between the cabin and the engine completely in carbon and two new aluminum alloys, including one of the 7000 series for high resistance sheet metal, the frame of the SF90 Stradale has increased the 20% flexural stiffness and 40% torsional stiffness compared to the previous platforms without penalizing the weight, all to the advantage of the car's dynamic qualities. NVH (noise, vibration, harshness) characteristics have also been improved thanks to the use of a new aluminum alloy for the floor which is called 'quiet aluminum'. "
     
  22. renzone

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    There is dry weight and curb weight, we know that. It only serves to take a reference point, just always lose the usual, or always gain dry weight or always gain weight in running order. The differences between one and the other are on average in the order of about one hundred kg. Maybe someone is too optimistic in their statements.
     
  23. italiafan

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    I like NVH in my Ferrari’s. :)
     
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  24. red passion

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    Not funny! For a moment I got really excited about LB. :(
     
  25. Keysersose

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    I'm in the same boat - want to buy an F8 Spider but waiting to see about the LB.. Is there any chance that they would offer a spider version at the same time as a coupe? Has Ferrari ever released a spider version on the initial launch of a car?
     

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