f430 MANUAL, not F1 transmission.
I bought at 456M GTA 7 years ago in Ireland for 45K Euro. Traded it in for 75K against a 612. I am hoping that that 612 will hold its value. Keeping an eye out for a FF
The cars I see going up in value are the 430 factory manuals not the recent converted 430 manuasl, the manual F355 and the 550. A 430 factory manual on Bringatrialer has already sold for over $250,000. I own a 430 converted manual and if I were to do it all over again I would buy the F355 manual. I know there are many that are afraid of the costs involved dealing with the engine out belt change every 5 years but I see the F355 manual coupes going up like what happened with the Dino's. Just my opinion.
I think the best post 2000 model that has most appreciation potential is the 458. the prices have not soften at all, and they are staying in the high $150 K range or more.... also the last normally aspirated 8cyl by Ferrari. would think that means something.
Let's not be so quick to blame us young guys for killing the manual transmission. Manual sales have been on the decline since before most of us were born, and Ferrari stopped putting manuals in V12 cars before most millennials could drive—yet we seem to shoulder most of the blame— "millennial anti-theft device" In fact, I often see more of my older friends switching to an auto, while people my age seem to be obsessed with manual transmissions. Just my perspective.
Great choices, I think you can find a higher milage Stradale < 200K, but the only Scud I saw under 200K had a few accidents.
CS and Scud both > US$200 so not in 355B is pre 2000 which leaves gated 360 Modena (not spider) and 456M GT (not just GT) gated 430 would be the other one I'd pick
I agree, and as a 355 owner biased. I bought my 355 when gated 430 were much more attainable. Tried many times to convince myself to go that direction (430) because of timing chains, more power/etc and in the end, after watching a million videos it turned out the looks of the car didn't make my heart jump, nor did the sound. For me that is really important. When I walk out to the garage I want to get hit with -wow, that is beautiful. I spent a ton of time looking at front end pics of 430's and could never convince myself to love it. And sound, when the 355 bypass opens it's just bliss. Absolutely love it. Also agree on the 550. I look at them often. My biggest mental block is knowing what I could have bought one for when I bought my 355 (and still decided on 355). I do think it's a great car though! That being said, if anyone has a high mile 550 that needs a service send me a message if you want to trade for a 993 C4S
Well, if you can stretch your budget a little, I believe this will be the most collectible, non-supercar Ferrari since the end of the Enzo era. 550 Barchetta! https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2001-ferrari-550-maranello-barchetta/
On further thought I think you are right. Even with the 458 being so pretty, the numbers are pretty high in terms of how many were made. the modern cars are so plentiful, don't see appreciation at all. at current prices there are no new Ferrari's under $200k .... i think?
Absolutely. I bought my 330 GT 2+2 when they were dirt cheap but scarce. Something like 500 Series II cars were made. At the point that Ferrari made that car, it had made approximately 5000 cars total. Many more are built every year now. There's no exclusivity or rarity or originality in the modern cars. Matt
I'm with you and WAS going to post something yesterday. Whenever someone comes on with these type of questions you really have to ask yourself why.....are they going to Lambo and Porsche forums as well... When looking for my first Fcar I knew what general specification I wanted: Front engine V12 manual. I knew and loved the history of the marque ie no Cavalinos on anything except factory comp cars (That'll get howled down here!) and really never thought the day would come When folk come on here without a clue brings up a red flag IMO. .02c
Yes, rising tide raises all ships but I think we are beyond that. You're either in the camp that a newer Fcar will meet your needs or it will not.
I'm voting manual 430 and manual 575 because I own one of each. Total production numbers approx 1200 and 246 respectively, properly rare by modern standards! (Not by old standards I grant you) conversions will only increase demand for the factory cars, indeed probably have done already, just like Rolex buyers clamour for the real Paul Newman. manual 612 is a lovely car but it's a four seater. I agree about not blaming millennials, if anything manuals are going to have a fantasy factor, real vintage. Nobody drives a Ferrari for convenience just like nobody buys a mechanical watch because it tells better time than their phone or a Swatch.