Indeed. I'm sure they know what they're doing..and, at the same time, they can't possibly please everyone.
Why such a negative tone? The VS (subject of this thread) looks like it will be a great success for Ferrari, and your assumption is that they will be forced to go all electric in the future. I don’t believe that is certain. There is already behind the scenes acknowledgement in governments that EV alone is not the solution. If they truly want to go carbon neutral, no good just exporting the CO2 to battery-producing China or whoever decommissions the battery at end of life. And that’s before you tackle the intractable issue of how you feed a whole fleet of EVs with electricity. Lots of investment going into hydrogen, for example, which can be used as a fuel cell or even in a combustion engine, both producing zero emissions. A long way to go in terms of development and various reasons why certain solutions might not work but I believe the knowledge that EV can’t do what they want on its own is becoming established.
...and...there isn’t a snowball’s chance in hell I’ll be offered an 812VS coupe.[/QUOTE] I have owned others as well, but let’s wait and see. I think there is still a lot to sort out here and they have only communicated to the VVIP which may just be the spider version. There will be more cars or allotments that come available. A few slots will hopefully will depend on the dealer and relationship and maybe we have a shot there. Good luck.
The irony of getting on the list for limited cars doesn’t escape me. You either have to spend a fortune on the depreciation from owning the whole range of F cars consistently over the years eg so Ferrari sees you as a brand ambassador or spend a fortune on Corsa Clienti / Challenge racing which is perceived by the factory as the ultimate commitment to the brand. If you enjoy either of those methods and have the means then do it and enjoy the limited cars as the bonus. To be brutally honest it is a lot cheaper to buy most of the numbered cars you really want second hand than play the game - even at a premium which for many of the more recent ones isn’t as steep as it used to be. Play whichever way you like and figure out what works best for you but go into the pursuit of limited cars with your eyes open.
You are of course correct. The things I have done and cars that I have purchased have been their own rewards, never a means to an end. For instance, I really enjoy time with the family that owns the dealership and going on a trip with them was a lot of fun. The highlight of my one and only trip to Italy was touring the factory, a dream come true. Corsa Pilota at COTA was a sensational, and instructive, several days of track fun. Finale Mondiale was absolutely mind blowing. Love the times, love the friends I’ve made, and love all my cars!
I remember for the tdf we had some leaks to put under the teeth, but know... nothing to eat and I start to be hungry.. really can't wait to see that freakin' car So 840 hp ? I think it's safe to bet on that number...
Yes it is cheaper! But nothing beats the journey along the way and then finally getting that damn allocation! + You can spec the car to your desire and keep it forever. Buying some second hand rosso corsa with nero interior and red stitching is as boring as it gets. And lets be honest the beautifully specced cars stay with collectors and never hit the market. The crapy speccs get flipped, at least 95% of the time.
It's much easier to contain the leaks when there are no physical viewings, no transporting of the car to those viewings and not many visiting the factory due to COVID.
No love for me from my dealer. Maybe I can hope for a second wave of notifications Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat.com mobile app
This car will be amazing, nice to have the coupe/spider version. Probably around 900 car run between the two versions.
Word is that it will probably be the last large-displacement, non-assisted, naturally aspirated v12 ... although nothing is final until we see it
I am in for this feature, I can see the hilarious youtube videos. I also actually laughed out loud at this comment
Getting VS cars as a bonus is exactly what it is for many of us, not the main goal. The main goal is to have fun with the cars we like and racing.
For it to be a breakthrough, it needs to be new. The TdF introduced RWS, since it has been used on the Lusso, and 812, so that's not it. I believe the 599 GTO introduced variable intake runner length. Maybe a new injection system, or a new diff. New brakes(hopefully). New suspension system. It can be a ton of things.
Yes, but I don't think anything you mentioned would qualify as a 'breakthrough'. I don't think they should have used that word. Just sets you up for a letdown. What modern Ferrari's would be considered a 'breakthrough'? I think only the F40 and the LaF. .
My understanding is that those that got the email yesterday have qualified for the aperta 812VS and those that have qualified for the coupe are yet to be formally told.
I'm not so sure - if it was such a seminal moment I'd expect Ferrari to make an Icona as a sendoff and price accordingly $1.5m+ why leave so much money on the table? The V12 could be produced for years in limited numbers under the emissions regs.
It's nice to see a post from you after a long time! Most of the original Fchat 599XX gang does not post here anymore.
Very true. I was thinking about it from the standpoint of Ferrari marketing lingo. When the TdF got RWS, RWS wasn't exactly groundbreaking. We know Ferrari hype things, that's just how it is. They could give it a new type of active aero that is new to Ferrari and call it groundbreaking. I don't worry about it. I have faith in the idea that the car will be great. My interest is not in its "groundbreaking" feature, but rather just how good the overall car is.