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F8 “Too fast for the Road”

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  1. GT2goneF

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    Good point
     
  2. Jo Sta7

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    I took the C8 out first a spirited top down drive today. It’s not scary quick. The Pista is scary quick. Definitely a massive difference in feeling.

    The C8 is brilliant, though.
     
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  3. Il Co-Pilota

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    I don't recall him saying that the F8 was tramlining, but he was very unhappy about the 812 in this regard. To Harry's defence, the Pirelis do tramline, and I can imagine it would be an issue with the bad UK roads. A shame they did not give him an 812 with MPS4S shoes - but then again, I suppose it would have been too fast for the roads.

    Now as far as Harry reading this? Heh, not only do I suspect he does, he's a member here.
     
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  4. Jo Sta7

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    Harry’s reviews are good. I appreciate his opinion and he has vast experience.
     
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  5. Gh21631

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    Tires make such a difference with these cars.
     
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  6. Jo Sta7

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    particularly on your F12
     
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  7. MalibuGuy

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    If you have watched his latest review about the Lamborghini He criticizes the F8 tram lining.

    Go watch it
     
  8. MalibuGuy

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    Different tires do make a huge difference in steering and handling and overall performance.

    Reviews are subjective. And when reviewers make comparisons, sometimes
    one wonders about their validity. If a reviewer who only gets to drive a particular car for an hour or two on a certain road on a rainy day a few months or a year ago makes a statement comparing it to a different car, I really question the accuracy. I do not mean to attack the reviewer at all.

    And I fully understand that reviewers must somehow make their voices stand out too.
    It’s as much theater as it is journalism. Or rather journalism is theater.

    I too was having a bit of fun creating this thread. I enjoyed EVO and enjoy watching Harry’s Garage YouTube. I view them as entertainment.

    One must experience the cars in real life and with enough behind the wheel miles to truly understand and appreciate them.

    (Harry M or Chris H or Schmee or JWW etc.)
     
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  10. Il Co-Pilota

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    Wow,,,,,, that's, oh my... The thumbnail pic hurts my eyes. I will give it a watch tomorrow.

    With regards to the tyres and tramlining. While the Pirellis are known for it on cars with light steering, I suspect that the roads in the area Mr. Harry resides in does not have the best roads. That is one thing I've thought about when watching his vids. I have no doubt that it might be an issue there with Pirellis, I just think he would be doing a better job if he made it a point to mention that it might be the tyres, not the car. I really like his reviews of the more "classic" stuff, that's definitely his thing. Just not sure he's in tune with the current crop of sports cars, and nor do I feel that he is objective.
     
  11. Coincid

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    The EVO comes standard with Pirelli P Zero. The color of the reviewed car is Blu Seiler. It is not aqua. A comparative review of the EVO RWD to the F8 will be highly subjective since their driving dynamics are polar opposites. Furthermore, any car reviews undertaken in England will be a test of how adept at handling the car is in inclement weather. Seems to be rare to see the sun or a day without rain.
     
  12. MalibuGuy

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    Wanted to revisit this thread with my real life seat time in my new F8 spider.

    I have the standard ORM Pirelli tires and have driven the car almost everyday for the past 10 days. The F8
    With these road tires is expretmemty well planted inspiring nothing but confidence under cornering amd acceleration. The braking is masterful too.

    As far as being unstable as Harry quipped in a later video, I think that is completely immaculate. Perhaps it was due to the fact that his car had a track set up with Cup Tires and the roads he was test driving on were wet, cold and narrow English country roads with loads of crowning, never mind unevenness to boot. I wonder if he had gotten the tires up to a decent temperature.

    The F8 is equipped with a more advanced side slip software which makes this Ferrari perhaps one of the best drift cars that Maranello has ever produced. Don't take my word for that. I'll listen to a master Ferrari mechanic who is a drift enthusiast and has plenty of seat time behind the wheel of an F8. He drove her like a hooligan (Please see the Chris Harris definition) on a wet cold track and drifted her lap after tire torturing lap. Also listen to current F2
    Champ Mick Schumacher praise the F8s controllability at Pista Fiorano.

    So yes Harry for you the F8 is too fast and unsteady. Better pass on this one mate!
     
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  13. FourFiveGreat

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    “Too fast for the road”

    Sounds like an endorsement.
     
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  14. GT2goneF

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    We like too fast for the road. For too slow for the road, I would have bought a (fill in the blank)
     
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    I think the crap UK roads and cold account for some of the tramlining. I've driven my 488 on some very uneven roads (on P Zeros) and it does happen - though it's never seemed like a big deal. I can imagine it gets annoying if roads are consistently bad. Am switching to MPSS soon, let's see how they fare.
     
  16. Il Co-Pilota

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    I have experienced it with PZ4 on both the F8 and 812. I run Cup 2 a lot and never an issue.

    The car Harry tested had PZ4, he mentions it. The UK roads are very poor, so no doubt he will be affected more.

    The PZ4 is a step in the right direction, but they are not on the MPS4S level.

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  17. Il Co-Pilota

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    Why on earth would you use the old MPSS and not MPS4S?

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    D'oh that's what I meant. Omitted the 4.
     
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  19. MalibuGuy

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    Harry's just trying to get eyeballs!

    I like his videos and watch most if not all of them. I like the one he about taking his vintage Testarosa to the South of France. In order to try to get his cabin heater to work he crammed some of magazines inside the side vents to black the air from cooling the radiators- I think he used some old copies of EVO. Didn't work though. Perhaps he should have used some vintage "Hustler" magazines instead They would have certainly steamed things up a bit.
     
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