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458 Challenge Tire Question?

Discussion in 'Challenge/GT Cars/Track' started by YellowMurci, Sep 27, 2018.

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  1. YellowMurci

    YellowMurci Formula 3
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    If you were using this car just for track events and not series racing can you run street tires? meaning a cup2 or trofeo r? im sure will reduce the expense of changing tires everyday for 5k - or perhaps the hankook slicks?
     
  2. FerrariFab

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    Have you tried the nitto nt05r? 305/35/19 its very affordable drag radial
     
  3. stradleboy

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    A set of the Pirelli tires are around $2600, you should not be paying anywhere near 5k
     
  4. Joeyung

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    As an aside, I bought a set of tire warmers for my Pirelli's and they helped greatly at extending the tire life as you reduce the number of heat cycles on the tires. I have tried Michelins with no luck, they seemed to confuse the ABS as their circumference is a bit different than the Pirellis. Stick with the pirellis and get tire warmers if you want to buy fewer tires.
     

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  5. rlips

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    Wow, great idea. How many heat cycles are you getting? I'm finding 1 good heat cycle, two ok, 1 not so good and last 1 is 3-4 seconds off pace and not fun. Total of 5, max.
     
  6. Joeyung

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    Well you do get one good run on the stickers, then I can get about 6-8 good days on the tires as I am only putting on one heat cycle per day. Then after that they fall off significantly. You know when they are done.
     
  7. windsock

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    We have been running Michelin's on the 458 with no issues including our endurance races of 8 hours or more. I have sets if you are interested. I think you will find that most street tires and other slick brands will have ABS and TC issues.
    I am also liquidating a large amount of our 458 spares and inventory making way for 488 and the GT3 inventory. Let me know what you may need.
     
  8. JAM1

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    Continuing the quasi-street tire discussion, I’d like to run sport cups or trofeos on my 458c. This is for DE and track days and I’m not interested in running at the edge on slicks. I will also use the car on the street from time to time for cars and coffee or Ferrari shows so an actual street tire is my preference. What is the best option to run in place of slicks?
     
  9. CarbonDan

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    I'm absolutely intrigued by this...
    How has it been working for you over the last 2-3 years?
    When you say 6-8 days, does that look like around 5x20 min sessions per day, times 6-8?
    That would be a game changer.

    I'm in the same boat as many others - I want to have a 458C (Or GT3 Cup) for non-competitive DE track day use only.
    I'm perfectly OK with running a few seconds off the fastest pace possible if it means saving tens of thousands of dollars in tire costs over the term of a season.

    Has anyone else tested out the tire warmer/single heat cycle hack?
    Has anyone tested street tires or hoosiers with good results (no ABS/TC issues etc)?

    I currently run a 2018 GT3 street car with Dunlop Sport Maxx Race tires (street tires) and a viper ACR-E with OEM Kumho V720 tires (comparable to a hooiser I'd say).
    My times are about 2 seconds off of a top level driver with the same cars at my local track.
     

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