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  1. Shack

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    Hi All,

    what have you found are the ideal tyre pressures front and back for spirited driving ?

    ambient is around 24degrees C

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  2. gzachary

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    I have been using 33 front and 30 rear.
     
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  3. Shack

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    assume that’s cold?
     
  4. Caeruleus11

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    Have a look in the owners manual. It usually gives more detailed information than the sticker on the door.


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  5. Shack

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    Yup did that but would prefer "real experience" from people who have driven 812 on B, C roads at speed.
     
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  6. gzachary

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    yes cold. I have run 29 f / 28 r as well. Slightly more comfortable and combined with the rear wheel steering the grip seems better but it seemed more obvious than 33/30.
     
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  7. Thomas S.

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    Any different tire pressure recommended for high-speed runs (e.g. on German Autobahns or high-speed tracks)?
     
  8. Frank_C

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    #8 Frank_C, Jan 7, 2021
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    I run (PZC4) 33/32 hot on the track as per Pirelli.

    Unlike the OEM Corsas, the PZC4 handle heat extremely well and if bled into that optimum level will maintain pressures throughout not only the day but the entire weekend without needing to be bled again. Thus you can just look just at your tire temps to adjust lap times.

    The OEMs handled heat poorly and would continue to balloon to high 30s and had to be bled nearly every session if not during a session.

    Also, going softer didn't show any advantage at all- this car is heavy and needs that extra sidewall strength the optimum pressures give.
     
  9. Il Co-Pilota

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    #9 Il Co-Pilota, Jan 7, 2021
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    What ever pressure keeps your pressure from spiking and keeps it around 2.3 bar squared hot. If you start out high, it is easy to get larger fluctuations in pressure and temp. This is for MPS4S. It will differ for Pirellis. As was touched upon the stock PZ4 is not very stable. Try and keep them in the 2.1-2.2 bar range. In any case, neither PZ4 or MPS4S shoes like to get above 60 C, so keep an eye on that. If you want a set of tyres for spirited driving and track, get the TDF PZC4 set as mentioned above. On the street however with those ambient temps, I'd stick to Michelin 4S rubber.

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  10. Shack

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    Perfect and thanks. Will experiment with around 2.3 as have MPS4S on the car. Dealer did recommend lower pressure on the rears though at spirited speed. I might try 2.3 front and 2.1 rear and see how I go.
     
  11. junc

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    I have the OEM PZ tires. What are some of the benefits of switching to the Michelin 4S other than more stable temperatures?
     
  12. Il Co-Pilota

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    More grip in wet and dry. They also run quieter and smoother, and the tramlining disappears.

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    Oh thats interesting. Il have to check them out. Thanks.
     
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  14. KarlA69

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    I've heard that a lot about MPS 4S being better the P Zeros...wonder why Ferrari doesn't just ship the car with MPS 4S?

    I plan to switch mine to MPS 4S when the stock ones (P Zero) wear out.
     
  15. Il Co-Pilota

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    #15 Il Co-Pilota, Jan 8, 2021
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    Because Pirelli delivers tyres for the Challenge, F1 and Corse Pilota. And lastly, it's an Italian brand. It's just business. When Bridgestone was in F1, Ferrari supplied cars with Bridgestone and Pirelli shoes. If Ferrari stops supplying their cars with Pirelli tyres, then they will kick up a proper stink. Have you noticed that all halo cars come with Pirellis? While the current fast tyre on the SF90 is the Cup2R, don't be surprised if the F80 will have a Pirelli variant. The "normal" SF90 shoe is alsp Pirelli.

    Here's an interesting trend to think about. All cars that Ferrari expect to get higher mileage or be used as dailies, debut with Michelins. Lusso, FF, 458, 488, F8, Cali T, Porto etc. All feature Michelins mostly. 812, SF90, early F12, TdF. Primarily Pirelli. Most track focused cars also feature Michelins. SF90 AF, Pista, Speciale and the GTO even. See a trend? They don't ship the most used and tracked cars with Pirellis. They mostly, or purely come with Michelins.

    Like with the F12, now that the MPS4S 812 shoe is out, you will see more and more clients switch to that, and clients ordering a new GTS will be enquiring about Michelins. It's Italian companies supporting each other.

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