Hello all, I'm new to the chat and excited to say I just purchased my first Ferrari a few weeks ago. It's gonna need brakes soon and a clutch down the road at some point. I live in north FL and the closest dealer to me is Ferrari of Central FL. I called them today to inquire about both of these jobs and this is what they quoted me: Brakes: 4 hours @ $175/hr = $700 parts = $3000 Clutch: 18 hours labor = $3150 parts/taxes/etc = $6000 or so I've seen some other threads on here regarding brakes being cheaper to purchase but I'm new to all of this and had a few questions hopefully you guys could help me with. - is it unreasonable to purchase the parts from somewhere else like super performance or ricambi and then have the dealer do it? -Is the clutch something that the dealer should be doing due to the complexity or would an independent be alright to use? Additionally, is this really an 18 hour job?? - I'd love to start working on the car myself but do not have experience in this area. Would the brakes be something I could potentially tackle as a newbie in mechanics? I appreciate all the help! -Josh
Even for OEM brake pads and rotors, $3000 for parts is too much. Clutch parts should be less than $3500, $4000 at most. unless you are replacing the flywheel. usually includes clutch, throw out bearing, clutch position sensor, a pilot bearing and some small seals which cost next to nothing. but you'll have to replace the engine oil when removing the gearbox for the clutch job. im not sure if your mechanic will accept parts provided by yourself
Agreed. Ricambi has the F430 Clutch Kit for 3,300 or so. I’m Assuming it’s probably close for that too on your 360.
FWIW: brakes are identical front/rear on the 360. I bought OEM rotors from eurospares in the UK . 4 of them with shipping for less than $500 total. Add 2 sets of brake pads of your choice (from $120-$250 a pop depending on brand/compound/etc...) , Your into it less ~$1000 , not $3000. It is also a very simple job, requiring about 1h if you go at it so would be ok to pay for 2h but no more... Look for a trusted indepedent in your area. Going to a dealer will not make you feel good about your recent purchase :-(
What are they doing for 4 hours on the brakes? If it's just pads and discs then it's way too long - 2 hours max is what it should take a competent technician (and that should include resetting the handbrake calipers and adjusting the cable). Obviously, if they're replacing the hydraulic lines then it'll take longer. I charge a fixed 10 hours for a 360 clutch job (and make good money doing them) - 18 hours is an insane time.
Less, actually --- and includes the Hill Engineering release bearings: https://www.ricambiamerica.com/360ckitf1-360-clutch-kit-f1-only.html Labor on the 360 clutch is (like @voicey mentioned) probably in the 10-12 hour range for an experienced Ferrari mechanic. If you're doing it at home, or for the first time, certainly it'll take longer. It wouldn't surprise me to hear of a DIY'r going at it for 30 hours (or longer!) simply because they might not have all the specialized tools on a rolling cart beside them, don't have a 2-post lift, etc. etc. Either way, there are many many many skilled Ferrari resources throughout Florida to chose from.
The clutch kit from eurospares UK is incredibly good value and very complete - I got this kit when I did my 360 F1 clutch. It has everything in the bell housing down to the last nut, screw and seal including a new flywheel and ring gear. 2024 Pounds / USD$2700. A quote for parts at more than double, this is crazy. Find a tech that is happy to fit parts you supply. Assuming your car is F1: https://www.eurospares.co.uk/search?partNumber=70001612
It’s good to have that high retail dealer baseline when shopping prices. I like to share the ‘savings’ w my other half to show how responsible I am w my f car endeavors. After which she generally suggests a nice meal at our favorite foodie place. You will be shocked at the spread of range between dealer and alternatives. ideally you form a lasting relationship w an honest qualified shop near you. it is also nice to have the contact info for the shops preferred towing service in your wallet.
Get on You Tube and do a search on how to do a brake job on a 360. You’ll see how easy it is and you’ll get pissed when you realize how much they were trying to overcharge you. You’ll be able to do the brakes yourself with the guidance of You Tube and a mechanically inclined friend. I can’t comment on the clutch job because I’ve never done one. Definitely go to a trusted Independent shop, never use the dealer. If I take my Chevy truck to the dealer it’s twice the cost for service as compared to an Independent shop. Find an owner/operator shop, you’ll get the best job done there. Sent from my iPad using FerrariChat.com mobile app
Brakes pads are easy enough to do oneself if you have a weekend day. It'll take you maybe an hour or two. If you want rotors.. that's maybe another couple of hours per side if you take your time. Clutch needs transmission off. Bought friction disc at Ricambi I want to say and Hill bearing. Cost about $6k or so for the job at my independent all in.
Thank you for the response Yeah I looked into it and appears parts are around $1000. I just don’t know exactly everything needed other than rotors/pads to do the job. Additionally some parts I looked at have a sensor and some don’t so not sure which one I choose? Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat.com mobile app
I did ask the guy at Ferrari if I could bring my own parts and they said that would be ok and just charge the labor. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat.com mobile app
Thanks for the reply. I thought that sounded a bit much as well. 1 hr per brake?? Maybe if I attempted to do it myself for the first time Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat.com mobile app
Thank you for the link! Really appreciate it and will check it out. Yes the car is F1 Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat.com mobile app
I did do a search for this and found a vid on brakes for the 430 from some guys in the northeast. Is the 360 the same thing when it comes to this job? Also do you know of any other videos that go through it? Thank you! Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat.com mobile app
Anyone know of a good recommendation for Indy in NE FL or surrounding areas? I’m not opposed to drive a few hours if worth it. I also saw a recommendation for a guy named Steve at Omega Motorsports here in town. Seems like F specialist mechanics are scarce in Jax. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat.com mobile app
Brakes from our local dealer were $3900. and then a later brake job was $2700 for a local independent Rotors, pads, fluid change out. Real numbers that I paid.
What city in FL ?? I may have the best place for you to go and not get your hear RIP OFF like you would at Central Ferrari !
I’m in Jax but not opposed to hear good recommendations nearby if you have them. Thanks! Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat.com mobile app