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360 CS Conversion & Gated Shift

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  1. 24000rpm

    24000rpm F1 Rookie

    the only hardware change for a Superfast II CS is the f1 actuator (or even just the teeth part of the actuator), and some additional sensor and some wiring. And maybe a transplant of the "power unit" (as decribed by ferrari) since scud's f1 pressure is a little higher than CS, I'd think.

    most of the work should be software.

     
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  2. 360trev

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    A few months back I fixed this very gated CS conversions issues so it now drives as it should. It's owner is Khan and he's a really nice guy. He's actually on here but I don't think he comes on very often.

    If you remember back to Sam @seenthroughglass, the famous YouTube car vlogger, he drove it and felt very underwhelmed. It was because it was still running in F1 mode and running in half broken state because whoever they had got to do the ECUs didn't really know what they where doing and botched the job by turning off every single fault code! Even detonation and safety checking. Absolutely shockingly bad. The poor CS, it wasn't even running gated software so in the end all they did to hide their botches was deactivating ALL fault class codes in the ecu which is a terrible way to delete hardware! Whomever did this if your reading hang your head in shame!

    If you do it this way the software still knows about the fault present and drives much worse because of it, your just hiding the CEL. For instance if you hide the fault for say air injection without truely disabling the system your car will run super rich on cold start and no CEL will complain. Similarly same thing on cat efficiency, just deactivate the code and well your still reserving torque for various functions and deactivating fueling maps for cat protection. It's all a big mess if you don't do it as per the way Bosch calibrated things at the factory.

    So in summary while some tuners can get away with hiding CELs many, like poor Khan's car never run properly ever again and are therefore underwhelming which is a real shame.

    Thankfully all is good on his car now. My only recommendation now is to swap that center console.. Its the only thing I don't personally like now on his car, I'd have one made in CF in Same style as CS or if its too much hassle modify a 360 Challenge one to fit like what I run today...



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  3. jag-oo-r

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    Oh I'm a subscriber, for sure! haha. very nice work!
     
  4. clean512

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    Well I guess I'm one step up on haveing the challenge center console on mine
     
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  5. RANDY6005

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    Retail every part needed shift lever assembly minus number 19 plate 2400.00 from page 037 outside gearbox controls.
    Order sent should all be available.
    160480
    108010
    199070
    13895870
    159137
    174967
    180936
    176626
    176425
    176642
    182391
    181753
    115980
    177029
    177027
    172918
    181751
    172934
    219570
     
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  6. clean512

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    Make me wanna order
     
  7. RANDY6005

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  9. RANDY6005

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    Second order just placed .
    Clutch master ## 180841 retail cost 355.00
    gearbox control cables ## 180701 retail cost 323.00
    First invoice rounded up 2400.00
    Second invoice rounded up 700.00
    3100.00 total so far.
     
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  10. ttforcefed

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    Is 181751 available?
     
  11. clean512

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    Are you doing the work randy
     
  12. brogenville

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    Be interesting if it is, as it was definitely NLA for quite a while. If so, then you’d assume Ferrari have decided to make a new batch?


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  13. ttforcefed

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    Yes but all the normal sources are NLA
     
  14. RANDY6005

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    Yes not as if I have to fabricate any parts just remove FI system and replace with gated shift parts.
    Harder to convert a gated shift 360 to a F1 system..
     
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    I. clutch pedal ## 180599 HOLY GRAIL !!
    2. complete outer control ## 184022 HOLY GRAIL !!
    With just these two parts you would have it licked all down hill..
    There so much new technology parts can be made now like never before.
     
  16. RANDY6005

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    Beginning CS build no CS bumpers anywhere only aftermarket or from wreck CS,s
    After years looking Neil from Eurospares calls Ferrari remaking nine sets Euro front and rear style bumpers.
    So far just in one week I have already found OEM clutch pedal and outside control unit BRAND NEW IN A BOX !! problem !! they know what they have want be cheap.
     
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    You have done very well Randy. Guess you’re all in now too!


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  18. RANDY6005

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    Brogenville wished . One on ebay and one at a high in shop both out of my price range
     
  19. imahorse

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    I'm looking forward to seeing this come to fruition.
     
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    hi Randy


    160480 £148.76 original new to order 10-14 days or £55.00 pattern copy in stock

    108010 £5.20 each in stock

    199070 £52.29 new to order

    13895870 replaced by 13896070 £3.04 new to order 10-14 days

    159137 £10.26 each new to order

    174937 no longer available and no used to offer

    180936 £308.97 new to order

    176626 £321.71 new to order

    176425 £174.32 in stock

    176642 £72.46 new to order

    182391 £6.27 new to order

    181753 £43.49 new to order

    115980 no longer available and no used to offer

    177029 £32.33 in stock

    177027 £38.12 new to order

    2x 172918 £3.02 new to order

    181751 no longer available and no used to offer

    172934 £28.98 new to order

    219570 £84.04 new to order

    180841 £262.88 new to order

    180701 £252.53 new to order


    all new to order parts are likely to be mid jan now
     
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  21. RANDY6005

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    Reply email from Eurospares .
    Shift assembly .
    no longer available for order
    174937
    115980
    181751
    where the fun begins finding them ...
     
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  23. RANDY6005

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    Love it my first gated shift part on the way .
     
  24. brogenville

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    $90! That’s nuts!!!


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