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  1. Ferrarium

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    Correct but they were an OEM option. Perhaps dealer option but an option none the less.
     
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  2. Ferrarimondial348

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    Your statement is unfortunately incorrect. Only the limited production (50 cars) 348 GT Competizioni left the factory with Cloisonné Scuderia shields as standard. None of the road going 348 variants from 1989 - 1995 with the exception of the aforementioned GTC were fitted with shields. No factory SKU was created to add shields as an option during assembly, nor was there an OEM part number at any authorized Ferrari dealer. Any shields you see on a 348 are aftermarket. The option to add factory shields became available during mid production of the 355 series.
     
  3. Ferrarium

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    Soooo they were a dealer option. Not at time of 348 purchase. However a person could drive their 348 to the dealer say please install OEM shields the dealer would do so in mid 1997ish or there bouts. Good clarification, thankyou.
     
  4. A348W

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    Mmmm, I don’t think so other than the plastic stick on ones.

    There is a recess in the front wings to which the shields sit. Other than custom panel beating recesses into the panels or fitting 355 wings with recessed (I think they fit the 348) you won’t be fitting enamel shields.
     
  5. Ferrarium

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    Ok this is great information.
     
  6. bjwhite

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    Only the 348 Competizione got Scuderia badges from the factory. And no as A348W mentioned, the 355 Scuderia badges are recessed into the front fenders (wings) of the 355s that came with them. I supposed one could replace the fenders--I know it's been done before on 355s for a "correct" conversion, but still.

    But that 348 Competizione was the only 348 with them from the factory--and they only did 50 of those.
     
  7. Ferrarium

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    I get it. My question is could you go to the dealer and have the dealer put them on after the fact. Let's say in 1997.

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  8. bjwhite

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    Using 355 recessed fenders and factory 355 badges? Sure you could. But at that point that's just a modification of a 3 year old used car. Certainly not factory just because a dealer does it.
     
  9. allandwf

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    I'm sure they would fit resin ones to a 348, as long as you paid them. Most 348s I've seen with shields, including mine, have the resin ones not metal.
     
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    There are some very nice well made metal shields out there if you do some research.
    I have some very nice metal ones and they are epoxied on to the fenders so they will never come off and look fantastic still after almost 14 years now.
    If you like shields and want them just do some research and you can find nice ones and enjoy. If some purist gives you crap about it, screw them its your car.
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  11. Ferrarium

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    Mine are metal with ceramic.
     
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    Buyer got a *scorching* deal. Maybe the first-year, 43K miles, and non-shop major put people off a bit? Were I still looking for my first Ferrari, that would have been the one. A Ferrari that gets driven is always a happier Ferrari, and a knowledgeable amateur service is OK by me, so long as a couple hundred miles have been put on it afterwards.
     
  14. QSA

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    I think the buyer pays somewhere around a ~$2k buyer’s fee? Service records only going back to 2010 may have factored in a bit, plus the risk in no PPI, exhaust a little wonky, not much detail on any upgrades and the usual fixes. Overall I think this is about market for this car IMO.
     
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    That car could have been presented far better. The owner did not use a pro photographer and was not really helpful to answer questions. More detail would have really helped that listing. Those are items that really help sell on BAT.
     
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    I'm the buyer of the BAT 348. It's currently about to start its journey across the big pond to the Netherlands. Will start a new thread when it has arrived, and we can talk about whether it was a good deal or not.

    Definitely will change the wheels for 360s and the exhaust for something more exciting.
     
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  17. Ferrarium

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    Machine the 360 rear wheel offset or it can look like a muscle car which then you have to use stretched side walls to hide it, the rid site outside the fender, some like it, and that's fine just be aware it is all.


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  18. Michael_Davis

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    Isnt the track narrower by a touch on the earlier cars, so you dont have to machine them? I mean, I have stock 360s on my 95, and I like the way they look peeking out of the well a bit. One would think the earlier cars the wheels wouldn't be as offset out.
     
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    Which one, the red coupe or the black Spider? Either way, welcome to the Brotherhood!
     
  20. LittleMol

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    The red TS.

    Thanks for the advice on the wheels, will make to check it.
     
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  21. Ferrarium

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    No its a common misconception, actually the track is identical. Later cars had a different rear wheel part number where they changed the offset to push the wheels out 25mm. It was a wheel offset change. As far as wheels peeking put yes, some like it and that is fine no criticism there, however one should not assume bolting them on will give it the same stance as a later 348 is all. Nothing worse than spending money on wheels and tires putting them on and saying what the... why did no one mention this is all.

    I have 15mm spacers on 355 wheels and the offset is the same as late 348's or early ones with 25mm spacers.

    348 wheels are directional with spokes and the later 348 has rears with different offset meaning the 348 has 6 different wheel part numbers.:eek:
     
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    Ahhh, I see. I had always assumed that it was the hub or driveshafts that had a bit added on. Wasn't aware that it ws just a difference in wheel hub thickness. Though that does make a lot of sense, as it would be the easiest way to achieve a bit wider a stance. Not the most elegant way to go it, but certainly the most cost-effective.

     
  23. Ferrarium

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    It is elegant though. The 348 and 355 was essentially the same with a-arms and hubs but 355 had 10.5 rims and an offset that pushed the wheels out 10mm to be the same as the later 348. That's the only difference between an early 348 and the last 355 regarding outside wheel dimension, just offset. There is a few inches total play regarding offset to balance the needs of the chassis, it is the role of offset. It's why one cant bolt on any wheel without regard to offset, it matters and affects characteristics. it not just an esthetic thing, although in some car cultures it is purely an aesthetic thing. That's fine too. Room for everyone's tastes and passions.

    BTW Hope your enjoying your beautiful Spider.
     
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    Could you please let me know where you bought your badges from? I’d love a pair
     
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