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Another question about bushings :)

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  1. Nuno Andrade

    Nuno Andrade Karting

    Aug 24, 2019
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    Regarding the Polyurethane or Graphite impregnated bushings, can someone tell me if the removable donut is installed on:
    A- inside the A-arms
    B- outside the A-arms
    C- doesn’t really matter

    Pictures below illustrating the bushings and the removal ring/donut and another picture with the bushing installed showing the removable ring installed on the outside
    Thanks

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  2. Nuno Andrade

    Nuno Andrade Karting

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    So basically I want to know if it makes a difference pressing the bushing from the inside to the outside out or from the outside to the inside.
     
  3. rjd2

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    Jul 28, 2016
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    As someone who just did this last week, and sat them on the forks, I don't see how it could matter when done. They will fit so snug in the chassis forks that it looks to effectively function like one piece....I had to give a few of them some hammer-based encouragement....
     
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  4. Nuno Andrade

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    Do you remember what way did you put them in? A or B option?
    Did you push the new bushings from outside to inside or the other way around?


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  5. thorn

    thorn F1 Rookie
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    I installed the bushings from outside the arm, to the inside (on a press). The ring was installed on the inside.
     
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  6. rjd2

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    I put mine in from the outside inwards, probably just because the ergonomics of lubricating them and pushing inwards was easiest.

    A more significant decision, IMO, is the orientation of the bolts on the a-arms. on my car, which i am confident had never had this job done since it left the factory, they installed the fork bolts from the outer edge, inwards. i see the safety reason-it creates a redundancy, so if a nut comes off, the bolt physically can't unseat itself on some of the forks because of the frame positioning. unfortunately, several of my forks were seized onto the frame, so this forced me to cut the bolts out using a dremel. so i seated my bolts from the inner portion outwards, with the nuts on the outside, and spec-ed my torque to the factory requirements, and used loctite. may or may not be ideal, but that's the call i made on it...
     
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  7. BrockBenson

    BrockBenson Formula Junior

    Oct 18, 2018
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    Hi Nuno,
    Where did you get those bushes from?
    Thx
     
  8. Nuno Andrade

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    Nick Forza


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  9. BLACK HORSE

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    I bet $5 they're gonna squeak ;)
     
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  10. Nuno Andrade

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    Black Horse, funny enough when I installed them I was very upset because while in the air (no load) some of the a-arms were squeaking when I moved them up and down...but once I finished the installation of the entire suspension and put the car down I didn't heard any squeak during my driving trials. I know that are early days ( 200 miles ) but at least I was happy that they didnt squeak from day one :)
     
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  11. BLACK HORSE

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    I was having some fun with you.... I know its alot of work replacing the bushings... I did it as well...
     
  12. papparazzi

    papparazzi Rookie

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    As someone who is thinking of also replacing my bushings, do you do it while the arms are on or off the cars? Obviously, off might be easier to insert the bushings but also a pain in the --- to do! Also, I usually buy from Superperformance, UK. The rear bushings are roughly $ 300. and the front $ 220. Similar price in the US?
     
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  13. BLACK HORSE

    BLACK HORSE Formula 3
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    Pull off the suspension from the car.. its much easier to replace the bushings.. and maybe powder coat the arms if needed...
     
  14. miketuason

    miketuason F1 World Champ
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    Are thinking about the polyurethane bushings or The original rubber bushings?
     
  15. Paul Kane

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  16. BLACK HORSE

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    Looks pretty much like my work bench :)
     
  17. thorn

    thorn F1 Rookie
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    Be aware that powder coating will hide cracks, while paint will not.

    (And sometimes, you want to see cracks if they are present.)
     
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  18. Nuno Andrade

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  19. Paul Kane

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    Our powder coaters are excellent, they do a lot of high performance race cars so know what to look for prior to coating and would report any item deemed below spec.
    So far this job has taken 2 months working on and off, we’re just waiting for the original shocks to be refurbished with new bushiand sprin
     
  20. Paul Kane

    Paul Kane Karting

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    Typos.... new bushings and springs.

    Once all stripped down we found that all the rubber hoses were rotten and leaking, ball joints shot.
    I’ll put up more pics of reassembly ASAP.
     
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