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Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by Melvok, Feb 25, 2019.

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  1. Melvok

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    Thanx a lot ! Will need that soon I think.

    Anyone else here who has useful tips on maintenance ?
     
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    #127 Melvok, Jul 16, 2020
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    Woooow …

    Sunday morning last: No START of my '12 458 Italia, all red screens: parking brake not free, GO to the Dealer, AVH problem …. :-( (BTW: always on tricklers)

    So after 3 years and 8 months …. I needed to exchange the AGM battery for my second time … because I installed one in Dec 2016.

    So next morning I bought another 74 Amps battery, did cost me exactly € 100 … so not expensive at all.

    And one hour later, the DIY job was done. (Used the old sticker of the previous oem F battery of € 600)


    How about you all, you must also experience the same things with your cars … ?

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    Based on what I’ve read, I’d say anything over 3 years is considered pretty good. Mine started to give hints (weird messages) it was near the end of its life. Sure enough, the day I was supposed to take it in for a battery change, no start.

    I replaced it myself, and now could do the job much faster. Not technically hard, just need to be a bit of a contortionist.


    Now that my maintenance program with Ferrari has expired, I found a great local Indy (actually two) that can do all routine stuff and even some more technical repairs. Brakes, tires, alignment, battery, belt and fluids, plugs, and sport exhaust....they can do all these things. As we are starting to see a few more 458s and 488s in town, I’m hoping they continue to up their game - beats the two hour drive to FOCF in Orlando.

    My most recent oil and filter change was $322.50. I can’t do it myself for that price.....
     
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    Wow, that’s great! Don’t forget to charge for your time. I don’t work for free, even for myself . I do volunteer work, but that’s part of giving back and it gives me a sense of purpose.

    I don’t have a lift, a way to collect the spent oil, etc., etc.

    Nor do I trust myself to change the oil properly without buggering something up. but that’s a different matter.

    But I do know how to check it (haha)!

    And a final comment - these cars do not like to sit. Mine is used almost daily and is much happier being driven.
     
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    I have a silly question with the obd2 readers. When reading the different computers using my X431 Pro Mini, it has a "right" ecu - master, and a "left" ECU - slave.
    Is it safe to assume that anything related to right ECU, is on the right side of car/ engine / engine compartment (passenger side in US car)?
     
  7. sampelligrino

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    Sums up my thoughts exactly! Cheers
     
  8. Melvok

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    Should de related to RHS and LHS indeed.

    But I think that you have (too) simple OBDII reader ...
     
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    Anxious to see the writeup!
     
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    Got to postpone it with 5 weeks, sorry …

    We have lots of trips with friends coming weeks, can do the exchange better after these rides / kilometers … :)
     
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    B.T.W. ... I bought this oem 458 front set at our big F dealer for only € 700 … nat bad imo !
     
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    Wow that is really cheap. Mine quoted some ridiculous prices


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    #141 Melvok, Oct 18, 2020
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    Well, this is the first of two jobs that I will conduct this Autumn/Winter season: front brakepads.

    Already 3 years ago my oem dealer suggested renewing the brakepads at around 32.000 kms.

    They looked still very good to me and I was not happy spend the € 1250,00 then.

    Pads were around € 1000 and labour estimated 3 hours they said.

    Now, at 52.000 kms and at the end of our driving season, I find it a nice time to do.

    Reading the digital 458 WSM, it seems to be a very simple case.

    In fact it is but ….. lot’s of simple phases are not written down of course …

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    Jack up the car, remove wheel.

    Take a torch and inspect it all: where is the electric cabling running, tiewraps and brakes.

    Remove the 3 tiewraps, disconnect the wiring by pressing on the clip of the connector (1).

    Take a pin or mallet and hammer the top pin (2) out.

    The spring (4) may come loose but whatch how the brake cabling was in a small holder.

    Remove second pin (3) the same way

    Take spanner 13mm and undo screw of the central pin. Take pin out and clean with copperbrush.

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    Now you must create space in the caliper: the new pads are not worn and the pistons must be driven in.

    Not too difficult as I found out.

    With a plier you force one brakepad to its max back.

    It that space you must place a large screwdriver to prevent the pistons to go out again.

    Now you use the plier on the second brakepad.

    It should slide very swiftly back also. You now have created the needed space on both sides.

    Pull out one pad and then the second one, put aside.

    Take the new two and add a very little coppergrease in (only) the metal sliding surfaces.

    Now place them both, this should go very easy.

    Connect the wiring in the pads.

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    Well, now install the lower pin (3), place the new spring, look that the little wireholder is at the bottom side.

    Install upper pin (2) again, it is NOT simple and you need some force.

    I used an extra screwdriver but you will succeed.

    Install central pin, put very little copperpaste on the screw 13mm and fasten.

    Lay the cabling, apply the 3 tiewraps and connect connector.

    Do not forget: get in the car and fully press the brakepedal tos set the 6 pistons.

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    #146 Melvok, Oct 18, 2020
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    Install your wheel, and now repeat it all exactly so at the other side ….

    Do not forget again: get in the car and fully press the brakepedal tos set the 6 pistons.

    Finally check your brakefluid reservoir for the correct level. In my case it was allright.

    First meters driving in the car the brakes have to get their grips !

    Follow the brake bedding now on the road

    All in al it took me (not an engeneer) one hour and it was all not too difficult !

    Hope you will be able to renew your frontpads too ... all the best !

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    Awesome. What bolt torque did you apply to the central bolt at the top of the caliper?


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    Excellent, happy to see this write up. Will be doing this myself. CCB brakes are made out to be witchcraft but just the same as steels, plus $$$ more.


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    To all 458 owners: when putting tires on your car, replace the TPMS sensors! I didn’t and a month later two sensors failed. Battery life is 7 years. and most are that age.

    I bought HUF (German) through Tire Rack for $ 69 bucks each. The guy doing the change struggled with his computer for 2 hours to do the recalibration and failed.

    Leaving his shop, I accessed the left TFT. Hit reset, and wa-la. All fixed, LOL!
     
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    I am not going to replace my TPMS sensors 3-4 times per year. :D
     
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