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I seriously doubt that you can compare the effect of Riccardos race results and Lewis race results when you look at the big picture in F1 at this time. There have been many times where Riccardo has had upset radio remarks, some in practice!, yeah practice! The guy is not a robot he has emotions too. Kimi, Max, Leclerc, basically all get upset on the radio. If i'm a team owner and a driver doesn't get upset from time to time i don't want him. Max seems to have bigger radio lash outs than Riccardo, so why didn't RB make Riccardo #1 driver? Since not getting upset is best?

 

...you think he's a 6 time wdc because he doesn't understand the rules?

It's always track dependent. That's why teams do trackwalks, that's why there are pre-race meetings where issues such as this are pointed out. If no one knew where it was, more would've made the same mistake.

It's like the pitlane light at Monza all over again...Just because Lewis doesn't pay attention to where it is for the track in question doesn't mean the rules need to be re-written so he does.

 

While I see the logic in that (and had a similar thought), in reality Hamilton isn't fighting for the championship either.

He reminds me a bit of MS: Both totally dominated the field yet both look as if they are totally insecure in their positions and have to throw tantrums (Hamilton) or dirty driving (MS). They could just go on with their business without the antics and still win all the titles in the world.

 

Boring, except for the accidents and time penalties. I've said it before, current F1 is like watching old-school NASCAR where the accidents make it worth watching.

Safety Cars should realistically be a disappointment because they take away from racing on the track, but now I look forward to them and hope for over-taking in the first few corners after the SC comes in, after which we go back into the typical procession of MB and the lone Red Bull.

Not sure the juice is worth the squeeze any more with F1, not just because Ferrari is so freaking awful, but because I can watch highlights and get the exciting bits without dedicating my Saturday morning and Sunday morning watching this snooze-fest.

I know, you guys don't give a damn what I do with my time, but needed to vent since my wife is currently the only person who listens to this rant due to COVID. Thought I'd spare her some pain. lol

 

No, but we think that Hamiltion isn't as idiotic as you would like people to believe.

You only keep repeating it to belittle his achievement.

 

As usual you try and steer opinion. I don't think he's an idiot.

 

If I have a choise, I prefer Hamilton throwing his toys out of the pram from time to time, to Schumacher pushing another driver to the wall.

Hamilton is only one of many drivers having discussions with his team over the radio, but very few use their car as a weapon.

 

Well, there is that.

True that many drivers are cry babies. Seb comes to mind among others.

My point was that guys like MS and Lewis should be above that. The flip side is that they are so ultra competitive they never seem to get out of their winning-at-all-cost mode no matter how many titles they already bagged and how dominant their talent and car is.

 

You may have a point there.
It maybe be that they are relentless in their effort to win because that's the only way they know.

 

The times MS used dirty driving he wasn’t dominating the field and didn’t had a couple of championships behind his name yet.
When at Ferrari at the top years I can’t remember those kind of actions any more. Of course the FIA didn’t tolerate them any more as wel at that time.


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Squeezing his own brother against the wall at the Ring?
Squeezing his own team mate against the wall at Hungaroring?
Parking at Rascasse after getting preliminary pole at Monaco?

All in the red cars with titles to his name.

 

1991 Sportscar World Championship

During his spell in Sauber, in the 1991 Sportscar World Championship, Schumacher was involved in a serious incident with Derek Warwick in that year's 430 km of Nürburgring. While trying to set his flying lap in qualifying, Schumacher encountered Warwick's Jaguar on a slow lap resulting in lost time for Schumacher. As retaliation for being in his way, Schumacher swerved the Sauber into Warwick's car, hitting the Jaguar's nose and front wheel. Enraged by the German's attitude, Warwick drove to the pits and chased a fleeing Schumacher on foot through the Sauber pits. He eventually caught up with Schumacher, and it took intervention from Jochen Mass to prevent Warwick physically assaulting Schumacher.

1998 Canadian Grand Prix

The 1998 Canadian Grand Prix saw Schumacher accused of dangerous driving when his exit from the pit-lane forced Heinz-Harald Frentzen off the track and into retirement. Despite receiving a 10-second penalty, Schumacher recovered and won the race.

2010 Hungarian Grand Prix[edit]

Toward the end of the 2010 Hungarian Grand Prix, Rubens Barrichello attempted to pass Schumacher down the inside on the main straight. Schumacher closed the inside line to force Barrichello onto the outside, but Barrichello persisted on the inside at 180 mph (290 km/h), despite the close proximity of a concrete wall and Schumacher leaving him only inches to spare. Barrichello said "It is the most dangerous thing that I have been through", and "There is not a rule for that, but between ourselves we should take a line, stick to it and that's it." Schumacher said that "Obviously there was space enough to go through. We didn't touch, so I guess I just left enough space for him to come through." Ross Brawn said "at the end of the day he gave him enough space. You can argue that it was marginal, but it was just tough – tough racing." A range of ex-drivers and commentators were highly critical of Schumacher. Although there was no accident, the race steward, the same Derek Warwick of the 1991 Nürburgring incident, wanted to black flag Schumacher since that "would have shown a better example to our young drivers". The Hungaroring incident was ruled to be dangerous and Schumacher received a 10 place grid penalty for the next race. Schumacher accepted the decision, and apologised.

 

If you have the race recorded, the commentators mention it either on the penultimate or final lap. He was purple through two sectors then was told to back off.

 

I think he's a 6 time WC because he does things that the others don't (can't).

I guess the FIA could buy a new paint brush for each track.

 

I think it is the converse, they are as good as they are due (DUE) to being so relentless in their efforts.

 

As I said before: Charles is flattering the car, Seb is making it look worse than it is.

 

The only sport I can think of which a reputation where the looser takes a loss with style and grace is:: chess !

 

Well 18 others don't drive a Mercedes so yes, he's doing something they can't...

Seems the other 19 drivers understood just fine...and all those from the support races too. I really think it's a Lewis problem rather than ''it's too confusing''.

 

Well I say, three incidents over a 22 year career.

 

There were many more, like when he was on the first row on the grid, to steer his car directly towards the other driver in an attempt to intimidate and force him to lift to avoid contact.
Some drivers complained about it. Schumacher did that time and time again, and went unpunished for it.
Schumacher had that reputation in the paddock to be a "dirty driver".

 

Sounds like the sort of excuse that struggling drivers use when they can’t come to terms with a superior competitor.