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Pista Exhaust Upgrade

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  1. Albert-LP

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    I would like to know which of the two has the best sound, the best power output, the lowest weight, the best reliability. Those are (in my opinion) the most important features for an inconel special exhaust.

    As I said I have no idea which is the best, but it's not putting only a Tubi (or a Kline or another) on your car that you can judge which is the top among them all: It needs a serious comparatine testing with instruments (and good ears too) and not only a good pair of eyes (in my opinion, of course).

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  2. Gh21631

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    Challenge is that there are so many configurations between various models and exhausts. I doubt anyone tries 4 different systems on a car and provides all of this data.
     
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  3. Lagunae92

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    I put an Italian Tubi exhaust on my German car, so maybe a German exhaust on my Italian car. How about that! Lol
     
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  4. Albert-LP

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    You scored a point!

    But...

    Kline Innovation is from Ilfov, Romania. Akrapovič is from vančna Gorica, Slovenia. Remus is from Voitsberg, Austria. Tubi Style is from Maranello, Italy.

    Is still there a German exhaust producer at present days?

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  5. Lagunae92

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    Probably the most popular Ferrari aftermarket product maker, Novitec (the one I was referring to).
     
  6. Albert-LP

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    This shows I'm getting old!

    Thank you, I completely lost Novitec.

    Ciao
     
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  7. Gh21631

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    Capristo
     
  8. MANDALAY

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    The decision is basically hard as every manufacturer have gone their separate way. As you can see with the model pictures I posted.
    Never going to happen but all 5 -7 manufacturers with an installation side by side.

    IMO I have listened to the Tubi and at idle it wasn't great at all
     
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  9. Lagunae92

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    Novitec vs Stock.
     
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    Stock sounds better and more resolved as sound goes to my ears. The Novitec sounds a bit truck like and crude until it's up top. Just because its a bit louder hasn't made it better imo. I wonder what Novitec products are on the car in so far as what muffler and cats were used or if it was their X with high flow cats or whatever they had on the car.

    I also noticed when they were demonstrating the sound from inside, the stock car had the doors and windows closed and the Novitec had something open - a window or door. You could clearly tell the sound comparison had been corrupted as a consequence.

    The other odd situation was when they both were compared idling where the Novitec was given many strong bursts of revs but then when they showed the stock idling they only gave a a couple of very tiny throttle blips. So again no comparison could be drawn from that exercise.

    I'm left to wonder did they do that because the stock sounded better again? Anyway i'm definitely not sold on the Novitec system they were demonstrating.

    On the dyno the stock system also had a noticeably nicer tone to it vs the dyno with the Novitec sounded truck like and rather crass in comparison.
     
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  11. Lagunae92

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    I believe it was the whole Novtiec setup with engine tuning, etc. It sounds a little trucky down low, but the highs are far superior. Anxiously awaiting the Kline installs...hurry up!=)
     
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    Any update ?
     
  13. Condor Man

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    I personally don’t like it when the after market exhaust produces a strong whistle.

    Ferrari has spent a lot of time and money making this car sound and feel like it is naturally aspirated which is an amazing feat.


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  14. uhn2000

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    Pista stock exhaust is great to me, I guess you could pin the valves open at some point (if you can).. other than its great.
     
  15. Bundy

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    I agree, Joe. We pinned the valves open.
     
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  16. Lagunae92

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    Strong whistle is no good.
     
  17. Tony Baunach

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    Anybody considering a Kline setup with decats? Might get off a very decent set soon...
     
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  18. Lagunae92

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    So you’ve been running the Kline on a Pista? Have any videos? Or audio? Thoughts?
     
  19. Art138

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    Pinning the valves did not throw a code?
     
  20. Scudmsl

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    That’s what I did. A nice improvement.
     
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    No codes.
     
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  22. Bundy

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    No. We’ve done it on the 488, FF, 812, and Pista without any codes ever. We had the Capristo remote on the F12 but I got tired of fiddling with it.


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  23. uhn2000

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    Same I pin them now.. the remotes drive me nuts!
     
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  24. Gh21631

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    I have the Capristo remote on my F12 and it seems inconsistent so I get that. Hopefully my exhaust will be in any day now.
     
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  25. Lagunae92

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    Even though I have the remote, this is why I'm considering the valveless exhaust.
     

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