Is F1 falling apart?

Precisely !
Football also went behind a pay wall in the UK and football fans voted with their wallets and migrated to Sky.

 

Hamilton told us to stop eating meat too

 

I ate a fake burger ones. Taste test between real and fake.

If thats the future, the future is ****.

 

Ha ! And let's change the world by posting a selfie while we're at it.

Hakkinen could be right, Bottas might get the job done this year

 

Don't bother, I'll watch F1 with my TV screen darkened and the sound off.
Cars that sound even more ugly than they look, driven by spineless sissies, thank you very much.
F1 fell apart, long before Covid-19.
No worries, F1 will kill itself before you know it. Let's hope Ferrari will have gotten out of this shameless and rotten FIA circus before it's too late.

 

If Ferrari go , FIA/F1 whatever, it is all over.
Personally, that is fine with me. I want to see my favourite team taking part, and of course winning, in an exciting series.
I don’t really care what that is, as long as it sounds good and looks good.
Sports cars would be fine with me, as long as we could tempt out Porsche, the only other manufacturer for which I have deep respect.
Sadly though i expect the great era of motorsport has passed. At least we were around to see some of it.

 

Motorsports in the future will be....
Le Mans
Youtube
Scale models
And in our garages ....

 

You’re kind of killing the pride I’ll experience when Stroll or Latifi becomes WDC.....

 

What about Lotus?

Joe

 

Hi Joe,
More complex.
Chapman was clearly a genius, but his cars were too often ‘widow makers’.
Jackie Stewart told me that Tyrell’s cars may not have been as fast as Lotus, but they were well engineered and less likely to kill you,
I’m quite mixed on the Lotus road cars. They sure handle well, but I’m not sure I would want to own one. Maybe as a track car, that would be good, if only I had talent ....

It’s always really been about Porsche and Ferrari for me.
Early 911s might have liked to throw you in a ditch if you overdid it, but they were at least well screwed together. Ferraris? The engine, and well, just look at them.

 

Thanks for the insight.

Number of Porsche's owned, 2
Number of Ferrari's driven, 2

Vanity plate on my car... LOTUS F1

 

Teams are already selecting prospective drivers based on how well they perform on simulators. NASCAR conducted "virtual" cup races before they resumed actual racing. Cyclists race against one another via "Zwift" as they pedal away on trainers.

Why not just make the leap now rather than going through the agony of watching team after team and venue after venue drops out. Make F1 the "Pinnacle of Virtual Racing." Current cars are controlled as much by computers as drivers, and algorithms can account for aerodynamics, weather, track surface, and any other variable that can be measured. Simulators, CGI tracks, soundtracks all available at a fraction of the cost with virtually the same revenue to F1 and the FIA, while being eco-friendly.

 

Here is what I put on F1's Facebook page this morning:

The consensus of fans is to get rid of all the hybrid stuff and return to old-fashioned normally-aspirated gasoline engines. So what if F1 isn't the "pinnacle of engineering"? So what if the big manufacturers depart and leave F1 to the "garagistas"? If it makes for better racing, so be it! The sport did fine in the '70s with just that scenario. Let Le Mans be the testbed for new-fangled power unit gadgetry.

 

I don't support that statement at all !!

Blocking technology in some areas and allowing it in others will make F1 a laughing stock.

We are not living in the 70s anymore.

 

+1 completely agree

+1 we will have to wait for the implosion of F1. Hybrid powerplants will be relegated to museums to be dusted and generally ignored.

 

The current F1 might not be a laughing stock, but has plenty of lack of interest in powerplants. Most fans today don't even care about Hybrid!
Appease the climate doomsters for what?

 

Sadly Francois Cevert died in a Tyrrell.

 

i agree, make the cars sound like race cars not dishwashers. F1 isn’t the pinnacle of engineering anyway, it’s technology used my most mass market manufacturers. They need to open up the rules to see more creativity and institute a budget cap that all teams can afford. The budget should include everything including R&D, salaries, and engines. If you want to make your own engine, fine, if you want to be a supplier, that’s fine too. It you are a supplier, you must make your product/support available to every team for the same price and they must be identical.

 

You got my vote

Let Formulae e do the research in E technology, hybrid is dead in the water if the environmentalists get their wicked way

Best

Tony

 

I wish! I went to several races in the V10 days where they had spec engines for qualifying that turned 20k RPM! There was a walkover bridge at Indy where the cars went under you at 185mph and screaming. Goose bumps man! It seems like there is more interest in green racing (whatever that is) these days. The new car for F1 is supposed to be more stable in traffic allowing more passing. I sure hope so as too many races are parades (Monaco) or all the passing is done by pit stop strategies.

 

Agree! Currently, big car manufacturers seem to be a curse for F1! Can we believe that Williams, that dominated the sport in the 80s/90s, is now on the verge of bankruptcy? Also, big manufacturers expelled the small engine builders from the sport, such as Judd, Mechacrome, and Cosworth.

Ferrari is not a big car manufacturer like Renault or Mercedes, it was first and foremost a racing team. Bring back the V12s, shorter and ligher cars!

 

True, racing was dangerous but Ken’s cars were less likely to break than a Lotus
.
On the other hand nobody talks of Tyrells as amount the great formula one cars, many Lotuses would be on that list

 

+1 like a Tomahawk missile flying between your legs!