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Thank you European Auto Group for my F1-Manual F430 Conversion

Discussion in '360/430' started by catdog, May 14, 2020.

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  1. one4torque

    one4torque F1 Veteran
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    May 20, 2018
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    360— don’t blame me !!! Ha!

    I do have a crazy plan to build a budget salvage 360 street hpde challenge car —
    stripper of every leather clad luxury bit

    f430 budget cs muffler

    headers

    200 cel cats

    A/m coil overs

    forged wheels

    gated swap

    racing seats

    roll bar

    ———.

    hit every hpde near me... commute to work...

    stay far away from any bougie car shows!!!


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    I would sit on cash right now... things do not seem right to me..., Fundamentals not at play. Another subject.

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  2. catdog

    catdog Formula Junior

    Aug 18, 2010
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    #27 catdog, May 15, 2020
    Last edited: May 15, 2020
    Love the mannetino action now that the car is a manual; obviously since driver is in charge of shifting, one can appreciate the changes in throttle response and damping and exhaust valve on-off without having any effect on shifting speed as it does with F1 !!

    Overall, car has become more ' old school' I love it but certainly not as high techy crazy fast shifting as F1.

    Both flavors are delicious, definitely different ...
     
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  3. one4torque

    one4torque F1 Veteran
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    Vids pleez!!!
     
  4. catdog

    catdog Formula Junior

    Aug 18, 2010
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    Will try to make some tomorrow ...
    Hopefully weather clears :)
     
  5. 0phantom0

    0phantom0 Rookie

    Feb 14, 2016
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    So no issues with the ECUs? Thats great, I know he had some issues with the Scud conversion but of course there was no manual option.
     
  6. catdog

    catdog Formula Junior

    Aug 18, 2010
    250
    Car runs perfect!
    Mannetino works as from factory
    Even the center display which showed gear number with F1 transmission now shows up shift arrow as intended (my car is a 2007/earlier ones may stay blank).

    EAG had both ecu's reprogrammed to year appropriate manual code. Art promised F430 switch would be seamless and he delivered. I think Scud never had the manual code from the factory so different story.
     
  7. vrsurgeon

    vrsurgeon F1 World Champ
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    I would LOVE to know where they sourced the manual transmission shifter assembly. Totally NLA everywhere I look.
     
  8. goto35march

    goto35march Karting

    Jul 23, 2009
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    so whats the total cost? $30k?
     
  9. becausephilchow

    becausephilchow Formula Junior

    Aug 26, 2016
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    To the OP:

    Good to see that you had a positive interaction with Art & EAG, and that he actually delivered on his promises.

    He purchased all the remaining stock from Ferrari a while back, is what I was aware of. Long time ago though.
     
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  10. catdog

    catdog Formula Junior

    Aug 18, 2010
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    I'd call EAG because prices may be different depending on many factors but the price list is on their website gatedsix.com
     
  11. Zed82

    Zed82 Formula Junior

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    $10k to fix an F1 Pump? Sounds like a complete robbery...
     
  12. catdog

    catdog Formula Junior

    Aug 18, 2010
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    Well I spent $800 on diagnosis at the local official Ferrari dealer and they couldn't fix the problem so the next steps were not going to be appetizing; I estimated $3-4K labor and same for parts...

    Anyway it's all water under the bridge, I love my car now in manual guise and it's a different experience all together. I don't have to listen to the F1 pump and worry about not being able to shift above 2nd gear or be stranded ... at least not from aging F1 issues.

    This was a personal decision based on local garages and their cost to repair F1; may have elected to repair F1 replace pump etc. if I knew a good local mechanic at that with reasonable prices maybe different ending. But being charged $800 for a non conclusive diagnostic work to have mechanics drive my car for a 100 miles and still not fix the intermittent problem with the F1 pump light left a bad taste and I wasn't going to trust them further.
     
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  13. Zed82

    Zed82 Formula Junior

    Sep 28, 2017
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    F1 pump is like $1000 bucks and maximum a couple of hours of labor. For 10K you could easily have the complete F1-system rebuilt here in Europe.
     
  14. catdog

    catdog Formula Junior

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    Wow, you are lucky... prices here for labor and parts seem to be much higher
     
  15. Zed82

    Zed82 Formula Junior

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    Yep, it´s not the first outrageous bill i have seen from the US. Being a Ferrari dealer seems like a gold mine in the States.
     
  16. catdog

    catdog Formula Junior

    Aug 18, 2010
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    Yes it is... Can you imagine billing someone $800 to drive car, adjust PIS, exchange some diagnostic info with Italy and then not solve the problem and then be ok with that? I mean charging $ for driving your customer's car and fiddling with it and then give it back with same intermittent issue? And wasting 3 weeks in the process
     
  17. Zed82

    Zed82 Formula Junior

    Sep 28, 2017
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    That´s just insane. Hope you have a great time with your gated 430!
     
  18. aseweepay

    aseweepay Formula Junior

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    Absolutely phenomenal....congratulations !!!

    I’ve long considered buying a F430 and converting it....but....for now I got new headers/exhaust and am in the process of getting a tune and correcting previous monkey-**** work done to my 360 (or in some cases, work I paid for that wasn’t done) and when done it will put down as much hp as a 430 if not just a little more....so for now...I’m gonna hold onto the 360.....I love my car, but your post has me thinking again.....hmmmmmm
     
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  19. Rvinoly

    Rvinoly Rookie

    Jan 9, 2020
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    Hello all, my first post here...
    I'm the owner of the BaT car referenced above, and can wholeheartedly second the comments from @catdog
    This is my first Ferrari (lifetime Porsche guy...:) and am really impressed with the workmanship of the conversion. I've never driven an F1 so can't compare, but far easier/crisper to shift than my 993, and the engine response is fantastic as well. Looking forward to learning from all of you!
    Cheers,
    Rafael
     
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  20. catdog

    catdog Formula Junior

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    Thanks Rafael, same experience here the more I drive it the more I love it. The engine throttle response is phenomenal so you can easily double clutch. In sport/race the engine sound with the valves opening up in the exhaust is a riot. It's just an incredible tactile experience with a lot of nice feedback. Only question now is keep the stock Aluminum gearshift knob or go with the CF one? CF would go with rest of car interior and CF steering wheel but aluminum has that connection with the past ... thoughts??
     
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  21. gatago

    gatago Karting

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    I always thought the aluminum one looked classy, and complimented the rest of the interior.
     
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  22. Rvinoly

    Rvinoly Rookie

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    Aluminum all the way, gotta keep the heritage alive! One of the comments during the auction suggested blacking out the hump and keeping the gate aluminum, as it does look a bit bulky...
     
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  23. hwyman

    hwyman Formula Junior

    Jun 25, 2015
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    Best money you could spend on a 430 IMHO. Great car. The F1 is great when it works.. a nightmare when it doesn't. Traded mine for the 550 due to F1 issues, had I kept it, it would've gotten the conversion. Once stock runs out on the manual parts it'll be "I wish I did it when I could"
     
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  24. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    cd- Do you mean double clutch or heel and toe? To double clutch you actually pause in neutral to bring the revs up to ease the load on the synchronizers or to shift in a crash or dog clutch gearbox without synchronizers. Heel and toe just matches the revs for the next gear to prevent drivetrain lurching.
     
  25. catdog

    catdog Formula Junior

    Aug 18, 2010
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    Exactly, it's awesome for double clutch because of the sharp quick throttle response and light flywheel, both on upshift and on downshift...

    Also heel and toe is awesome too, but I am still working on it because the flywheel is so light...

    Overall, it's such a great experience, very different from F1 (which I kinda miss but not its fragility...)
     

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