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  1. miurasv

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    #26 miurasv, Dec 18, 2012
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    Thank you very much. It's good to know the differing details as the cars evolve. As seen in this Michael Sheehan pic of red 275 GTB Short Nose 07333. No raised profile on the Long Nose 275 GTB 2 Cam as seen on the gold example. The bonnet bulge of the 275 GTB/4 is seen in the last pic of the yellow example.
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    Interesting the long nose has starburst wheels, I've only seen them on short nose cars. Anyone know when the change in wheels took place?
     
  3. Mark Shannon

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    He bought it new in 1965. It was, and probably still is Verde Pino 106.G.30/Black VM8500.

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    #29 miurasv, Dec 18, 2012
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    This 275 GTB/6C appears to have a curved bonnet bulge? I've seen other 6 carb cars where the bonnet is without a bulge.

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    6C has wide hood bulge; 4-Cam has narrow hood bulge.
     
  6. lancia

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    I repeat one of my old posts on the topic of the hood configuration:

    A clarification to this topic. The configuration of the 275 GTB hood is not a function of the number of carburetors, with all due respect to the suggestions of the previous post. The hood type is, however, related in general to the principal styling changes over the course of GTB production.

    The hood characterized by a wide raised center section (guessing about 70% of the overall width of the hood, rising out of the hood towards the rear) is typical of the short-nose design, same for both 3-carb and 6-carb.

    Along with the long-nose re-design (to cure high-speed lift), the hood configuration was changed to a totally smooth profile, no bump of any type. This is typical of all long-nose cars through the balance of two-cam production – alloy body or steel, 3-carb or 6-carb, no difference.

    The evolution of the 275 to four-camshaft motor brings with it a new hood style with a narrow center bump the full length of the hood. This is typical of all GTB/4’s, which have 6-carbs. (The nose is typical long-nose, but a keen eye will note a slightly more upturned shape to the grille opening at the ends compared to the two-cam)

    Within this context of broad style groupings, there are of course always exceptions, known and unknown, as with most Ferrari “rules of thumb”.

    Example, the 275 GTB “Speciale” 06437 for Battista Pininfarina (Paris Salon) has a small secondary hood bulge on top of the typical short-nose raised section hood (one of many unique details for this car). At least one of the customer series short-nose competition cars had a hood bulge. Several of the special competition GTB’s had Lusso-type hood scoops. The GTB/C competition cars had long-nose style bodies with smooth hoods, but the fenders are said to be wider (?). A common mystery is the early short-nose chassis number found to have a long nose and a hood with the full-length center bulge: almost certainly a car repaired with a four-cam clip after an accident. Finally, a small number of 275’s are encountered with unique factory custom details, original from Pininfarina – small hood vents, miscellaneous extra chrome trim, etc. At least one four-cam has chrome spears as accents either side of the hood bulge.

    Added comment: the wheels transition from starburst to the square holes around the lon-nose change, but there is some mix in transition, not a clean cut-off.
     
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    I was not refering to any particular chassis number, but I think over the years, especially in an era when the cars were drivers, it was the occassional expedient approach to a nose repair; simply graft on the latest nose and hood. I recall seeing a few cars like this. By the way, I think the 4-cam grille is wider than the long-nose 2-cam grille by a small amount.
     
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    Yes, I should have said "in general." There are exceptions to virtually everything when it comes to old Ferraris.
     
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    The other largely unnoticed difference between the 2-cam longnose and the 4-cam car is the rad grill. The latter has a larger grill.

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    Excellent tutorial on the 275 Berlinetta. I have seen two original short nose cars with long nose clips, I presume from collision damage--275 brakes were not the greatest. Also a two cam with a four cam hood.
     
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    The p[icture of the car when Red is when David Cottingham owned and raced the car in the 1990's. It is 100% NOT original long nose. I dont have my records to hand but from memory it was previously owned by Tom Walduck in the UK
     
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    CORRECT..........First registered on 22nd October 1965. Maranello order # 187.
     
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    The car in this video is almost certainly #07085, which has been somewhat modified since it left the factory.

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    Thank you, Mark. I thought that bonnet didn't look standard. I think the video may have been made by Simon Kidston? The car sounds fantastic.

    Barchetta info on 07085: http://www.barchetta.cc/english/all.ferraris/Detail/7085.275GTB.htm

    Kidston details here: http://kidston.com/kidston-cars/117/1965-Ferrari-275-GTB--6C-Berlinetta#

    And just sold by Talacrest: http://www.talacrest.com/Ferrari-Sales/Ferrari-GTB-275-6c/4899.htm

    Pictures from Kidston's web site.
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    Photo of the car (already seen in the thread above) popped up on Twitter today, and it reminded me that I know very little about this car. Is it still in the UK? The only shortnose 275 delivered new to the UK, I believe.

    I note its original handbook and warranty booklet are currently listed for sale elsewhere.

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    #45 miurasv, May 1, 2020
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    RHD 275 GTB 07789.

    I think you meant to say the only RHD 275 GTB Short Nose originally in Verde Pino?
     
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    07789 was last seen badly damaged by fire, in Luxemburg.

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    Can anyone post a picture of it in its original color?

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    Has it been resurrected Marcel? Thanks.
     
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    Not RHD 07789 but LHD 07341.

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