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458 How Many Miles is Too Much?

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by MaybeSomeday31, Apr 27, 2020.

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  1. paulchua

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    Hi @TiptonInAustin I can understand the confusion. I want to also vouch for @ttforcefed and @Il Co-Pilota - the consternation arises not from you, but unfortunately a different resident Ferrari expert which you'll soon become antiquated with in this thread.

    Beautiful car! Best wishes to you my friend.
     
  2. Il Co-Pilota

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    Lol:D

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  3. paulchua

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    I've been baffled for years.

    No joke, when I first stumbled upon @noone1 posts, his statements were so strange, but with a tone of such authority that I actually wondered he might be an Agenelli, or somehow 'in the know.' I was not being facetious or sarcastically mind you, but I was dead serious.
     
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  4. Il Co-Pilota

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    Why did you not answer my question? What models of the R8 line as well as F430's and 458's have you personally piloted?

    What defines an exotic, has nothing to do with most things on your list. Being manual or mid engined has nothing to do with it. That would basically mean that a TdF is not an exotic, but a 1992 MR2 is. Yep, makes all the sense in the world.

    You think the R8 is low volume? Right. More are produced every year than what Ferrari makes over their entire range. Attention? Had you actually spent time in an R8, you'd know that the attention one receives in an R8 is NOTHING like what you get in a mid engined Ferrari or Lambo.

    I feel like we're wasting time, so answer my initial question and put this ridiculous debate to sleep..


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    #30 noone1, Apr 28, 2020
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    Had I spent time in one... I guess you're just ignoring what I wrote before... Maybe it wasn't 20K miles, maybe it was 16K or 18K... I forget to be honest. Was a long time ago. Edit: Nope, about 19K.

    More R8s are produced every year than Ferrari makes over their entire range, eh? Well, they make their sales public so...

    2019: 2121
    2018: 1764
    2017: 3179
    2016: 3688
    2014: 2216
    2013: 2500
    2012: 2241
    ...

    So how does that compare to the ultra low volume 488? How does that compare to annual Ferrari sales?
     
  6. Il Co-Pilota

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    No more please. It's like arguing with a 14 year old. You couldn't answer a simple question, so I'm done with you.

    I will ignore you from now on. Leave me alone and don't bother me anymore with your replies.

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  7. noone1

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    So back to the OP:

    As you've now heard, the 458 is apparently reliable. And like pretty much every car, miles don't tell you anything about the maintenance or how it was driven. You'll need a PPI anyway.
     
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    Mikey , stick with the cereal.
     
  9. paulchua

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    #34 paulchua, Apr 28, 2020
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    Truth is, I actually quite enjoy @noone1 posts. As long as he doesn't egregiously violate the rules, it's okay to have a court jester.
    I've asked him a lot of questions as well. He doesn't like answering when....
    Actually @Il Co-Pilota has a point. Given many enthusiasts consider R8 is either a detuned Huracan/Gallardo or a Huracan/Gallardo is a tuned R8 - his position holds.

    Case in point? Look no further than the Cali/Maser controversy/stigma.

    It's about what, 110,000 units in aggregate?

    Or put another way, Ferrari still hasn't built 110,000 cars across their whole product line in the 16 years the R8/Huracan/Gallardo has been out.

    Okay, folks, now sit back and watch @noone1 digress into his usual shenanigans as he always does.

    :)
     
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    #35 noone1, Apr 28, 2020
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    LOL. Give me a ****ing break.

    So I get ridiculed for saying the F8 is barely any different than a 488, but now you think Copilota has a good point because the Huracan/R8 are similar and should be looked at in aggregate. Hilarious.

    And besides, obviously Copilota doesn't even think that because he even suggested the LP560...
     
  11. paulchua

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    Give you a break? Why when haven't given any of us a break?

    What's he going to say now folks, the Urus isn't related to a Q8?

    ROFL.

    @noone1, your so damn predictable and unoriginal.
     
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    We all know they are related, Paul. No one said they weren't related.

    Tell me, what group shares more in common: R8/Huracan/Performante or an F8/488/Pista?

    Go tell all the F8 buyers they're just buying a tuned 488. Trust me, it's not going to go over well, I already made the comparison.
     
  13. pizzadude

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    Busting out the proof of life !! Nice work lol

    For what it’s worth I got no dog in this hunt. Just got a kick out of that.
     
  14. paulchua

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    Wow, he really did pull it out, I was just being sarcastic. He really did.

    Mike, how did Ferrari or Ferrari owners hurt you so much? Why are you so mad at us? What sort of closure/affirmation/goal are you looking for vis-à-vis the Ferrari community?
     
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    Paul, you're a mod here. You can just edit the posts to make it look like you didn't say what you said. No one will notice.
     
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    So, will a V8 Audi R8 motor swap easily into my 458 ... and can I use 488 turbos with it?
     
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  17. ttforcefed

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    totally agree with you
     
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    Actually I put noone1 on ignore a long time ago...now I have threads ruined by you guys bantering with an invisible poster.
    Even though he is still on ignore he is still ruining my FChat experience.
    You say “it’s fun to banter” with him...really?
    He is a TROLL...pure and simple and every single person on this forum knows it...apparently except you.
    As a mod you should be looking out for the health of this community, not actively contributing to make it suck.
    IMO you should permanently ban him...period. Get rid of the troll and you can find your fun bantering with others.
    He offers zero value and the endless jibes you all make at him also add zero value to this site.
     
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  19. paulchua

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    Your point is well taken, and I apologize to you all for my indulgence. Considering you are now the 5th person the last 24 hours to request we ban @noone1

    @noone1 , you've been voted off the Island.
     
  20. Ianjoub

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    Oops. My snide comment was just to poke the troll(s). I was tiring of the hair pulling and eye scratching, but it was like a train wreck. I just couldn't look away.
     
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    I've tried with Mike, trust me. But in the end, we know this is exactly what he wanted. Seriously, just pity the guy, and thank God/Universe/Evolution/Luck that you're not him.
     
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  22. Il Co-Pilota

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    You're doing it wrong. It should be a V10, and it should have four turbos:)

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  23. Il Co-Pilota

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    Thank you Paul

    Consider this a sixth vote.

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  24. ttforcefed

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    thank you. really dont understand how someone has time to post 4600 times with no skin in the game.
    also OP hasnt logged in since 1130pm last night...first reaction when i read OP was this is another circus act...seems fluffy
     
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