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  1. Buckets

    Buckets Karting

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    Nick Papagiorgio
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  2. Buckets

    Buckets Karting

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    We are in agreement. Most front end parts are NLA from Ferrari. I refused to buy the car back without OEM repair parts being available. I looked everywhere and have a massive database of part numbers and potential suppliers. FYI Ferrparts will sell you a front cut of an F355 for $6k..... Luckily T. Rutlands was able to source me a NOS 70000611 from a body shop's shelf somewhere. I also found 65290900 right wing support and 63962700 RF fender, which I believe were also the last ones available new. So, I'll hope for no more crashes in the future.
     
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  3. Buckets

    Buckets Karting

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    Nope. Can't get one anywhere, unless perhaps there is one out there collecting dust up in the rafters of a dealership or body shop.
     
  4. Buckets

    Buckets Karting

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    Yep, makes sense.
     
  5. paulchua

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    glad to hear you are okay. Were the tires old? Sometimes that could also contribute. Best wishes to you.
     
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  6. GTUnit

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  7. Buckets

    Buckets Karting

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    Yes, the tires were a little old. A good friend of mine harped on me about this. Also, speed contributed. As a less-mature person, I used to drive some of my cars around in the rain on R compound tires, but I won't be driving on anything but fresh Michelins from now on. Anything else feels negligent, especially considering the power and habits of these cars.
     
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  8. Buckets

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  9. redzone

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    Ill advised rain drive took its toll. Simple yet expensive fix. Best wishes / John
     
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  10. 308 GTB

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    When you get your car fixed, think about Michelin Pilot Sport 4S in stock sizes. I have them for my F355 Challenge for use as rain tires and for when temperatures are too low to use slicks. They perform well in either of those conditions.

    I'm subscribed to this thread and will be following your repairs.



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  11. GTUnit

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    Old tires will KILL you. I made that mistake and survived. Paul Walker did not. Even in the dry, old tires are super dangerous. Once it gets a bit on the cold side all bets are off and its a game of Russian Roulette if you go out. Don't do it. Your life is not worth a few hundred bucks saved.
     
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  12. Buckets

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  13. phrogs

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    Not suprised seems people love to hit things with their Ferrari.
     
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  14. Buckets

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    For me, it's been a life-altering experience, in a positive way. But, generally I think it's better to have one that's not destroyed. I'll still drive mine, of course, but I'm somewhat terrified of hitting something again..
     
  15. phrogs

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    Nah now I wouldn't be worried about this car anymore. With the boo boo it got Hell it's a driver car and you could beat it like it should be without worries.
     
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  16. willrace

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    Don't be - We used crash repairs to make cars stronger in Stock-based classes like Improved Touring and GT Endurance racing. Spot-welds became stitch-welds. Follow that route, and you'll never worry about the front end again.
     
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  17. 308 GTB

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    Right. Listen to what Kurt is telling you. Here is one example of how dangerous spot welds can be, in this case to another driver...






    This Ferrari F430 Challenge lost its left exhaust tip approaching Turn 8 at WGI. Driving my F355 Challenge, I safely avoided the exhaust tip which bounced unpredictably. It can be dangerous out there!


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    The exhaust tip was spot welded to the exhaust pipe. When his car got back to the shop, both exhaust tips were properly stitch welded as they should have been at the Factory.

    You have the skills to make your car a much better car than it was when you bought it. And you will be proud of your accomplishment.

    I'll continue to follow this thread with great interest.
     
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  18. Buckets

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    Thank you for the vote of confidence. :) I do believe it will be nice, and that I will feel very proud to drive it once again.
     
  19. Buckets

    Buckets Karting

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  20. Buckets

    Buckets Karting

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    Don't worry, this is a Ferrari Classiche-approved garage.
     
  21. johnk...

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    Nice progress,
     
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  22. Buckets

    Buckets Karting

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    Thank you!
     
  23. Buckets

    Buckets Karting

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    Ray Garbe @ T. Rutlands was very helpful with the sourcing of parts, as was Ash @ Scuderia Car Parts over in the UK. Also my sketchy wire transfer to Germany resulted in some very nice parts arriving 65 days later.
     
  24. Buckets

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    My friend - let me tell you about spot welds. I am very familiar, unfortunately. I estimate I spent 40 total hours drilling about 100 spot welds, not to mention trimming little bits of metal in creative and dangerous ways to make everything fit. Oh, and we spent a lot of time aligning every aspect of the front framework - since the workshop manual doesn't have body measurements [please prove me wrong - maybe I missed it], everything was aligned literally by tape measure and eyeball.. oh and a laser level.
     
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  25. phrogs

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    Yeah I'd love to see body measurements from anyone if available let us know.
     
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