F8 vs Pista sound

But how do you hear it, seem to just be an image

 

I don’t have an F8, but I’ve heard one. Difficult to tell. I feel like the Pista, at least under load, is louder. Either way, although the Pista sounds exceptional compared to other turbo charged cars (GT2RS, 720S, etc) it actually sounds mediocre when compared to a Ferrari NA V8 or V12. It is what it is. I love my Pista though.


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Sole reason I sold mine.

 

Heard both IRL at WOT, Pista sounds better.

Interesting comment above regarding the GT2 RS, my friend's RS sounds pretty good for turbo.

 

I posted a video comparing them last year. Pista sounds A LOT better at idle.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B5_q2lfptjk/

 

I own a Pista. Spent time in an F8. The F8 is much quieter. It’s not even close. I’ve heard both cars WOT from the outside too and the Pista is much louder. I also have videos on my IG from inside both doing pulls.

 

That's why we got an 812. What the Pista lacks, the 812 makes up for in the sound department. Good complement to the TTV8.

 

100% agreed.


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No comparison, Pista sounds amazing at idle, F8 is extremely quiet compared.

 

The only reason an F8 would sound louder inside than Pista at low speed is due to the piped in sound, and even then we are splitting hairs (I've driven both cars - own Pista).

Having a valve controller in the Pista it is certainly louder than an F8 inside at low speeds when the valves are held in open position. That is 100% for certain.

The problem for Pista has always been that during low speed, off throttle, light throttle, and low engine loud situations that it is way too quiet inside for the type of car it is. No argument there. That is why I would recommend a controller for every Pista as std equip. Ferrari should have provided a button to push to open the valves up as Porsche do, and have once again failed miserably to provide such basics especially given the type of car it is.

Ferrari is a long way behind Porsche in many areas and that shouldn't be the case given their knowledge in racing and sports cars. Disgraceful really. I put it down to the customers willingly putting up with the BS for so long due to brand loyalty rather than calling these problems out loud and clear and demanding change. Especially for the money they/we pay. It's ridiculous.

 

My thoughts exactly. My 2rs sounds angry all the time - low or high speed. Certainly sounds tougher and angrier than my Pista from behind the wheel. It feels savage like a beast and gives you the impression this beast needs to be handled with care. It's only until you get up Pista that the volume comes anywhere close to the 2rs's. The Pista does sound very good though when you're on it I will say that much. No issues there at all. Credit should be given where due. It sounds very nice. Problem is, is when you're not up it, it sounds like a ***** cat.

The 2rs and Pista also deliver two different sound experiences in terms of tone, volume, and crescendo. To say which is better is highly subjective and a tough call imo but I will say the 2rs sounds generally more purposeful in intent and, is quicker to get angry no matter what the speed or rpm, and that is an area where Pista has failed to meet the very high bar the Germans set with the 2rs in that area.

From the time you turn the key in the 2rs you know you've awoken a beast....a very angry one. And that feeling stays with you throughout the entire journey until turn that key back off again. OTOH with Pista, over the course of the journey there are times where you feel you are just in a regular car.

 

It is because at idle the valves are open. Move off the line into any form of coasting, low load, or light throttle, and they are shut.

 

My F8 should be here this week. I have 2 questions. Dealer thinks they can pin the valves open like in a 488. Is that true? I thought I read that you couldn’t do it to an F8 without screwing things up. Second question is, my buddy just added Novitec exhaust to his Pista and I’m sure it sound pretty solid. Shouldn’t the F8 sound the same with the same exhaust, right?

 

Head tech here says not possible on F8 - I've stated his reasons in past postings - but by all means test it out and report. Pista sounds solid enough stock on throttle and, with a controller the valves can be held open during the problematic quiet times when the car is being driven slow and/or off throttle etc. A friend of mine has a Kline on his Pista and loves it but says the car is still too quiet off throttle so again I believe only a valve controller can provide for that unless the valves are pegged permanently open which is not advisable on this car. I would imagine the same would apply to an F8 in the event my tech is proven wrong and the valves can be overridden. Best of luck.

 

Shadow has the best source which says its a no go pinning the valves on the F8. Coincid's Canadian dealer says different. With F8's being delivered its a matter of time before this issue is clarified by an owner who attempts it.

And the F8 will never sound as good with the identical exhaust because it has GPF and the Pista does not. Until a designer finds a workaround solution and then one runs the risk of messing with the GPF mechanicals and possibly voiding warranty.

 

And, how does it sound?

 

I had a revving contest with my outgoing 488 and incoming 812. No contest, 812 destroys it. No GPF on the 812 for 2020 here in the US.

 

Careful, no F8 Pista coming. Save your money. The 765LT is likely to be the best of all of them anyways.

 

You need another 2RS? I’ll sell you mine hahahahaha.


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