do you have michelin tires on FF?

Any particular ones you are looking at?...PSS, PS4S, and/or Alpin?

 

I did some research and settled on PS4S for my FF. Seems to be the current consensus on best tire.

 

agreed

 

I put the PS4S on my 612 when they first came out 3 years ago (they weren't even the Ferrari spec as those weren't available initially). They have been an excellent tire. When I have to replace the P Zeros on my FF, I will be putting on the PS4S.

 

The Lusso spec MPS4S is the way to go.

It's not night and day compared to the MPSS, but never the less, an upgrade.

Compared to the Pirellis it goes a bit like this

Much less noise
Better comfort
No tramlining
Not slippery on white lines
Better in the wet
Better overall dry traction
Better when cold

Some say the Pirellis have better traction when hot, and I will say that' not a wrong assumption. However, on a car like the FF that is not tracked, this is a non-issue. In normal road conditions where temps are slightly lower than on track, the Michelin is the winner.

 

I can concur 100% with Il Co-Pilota, I done The change on my, FF. He is spot on!

 

Me too. MPSS on my FF cured the tramlining and felt altogether more planted. Will never ever again specify Pzero because there are better tyres out there but more than that they are mostly made by Chemchina who bought out Pirelli.

 

So far have only driven on PSS. Even when the time comes, I doubt I'll be able to tell the difference because I don't push the car hard enough.

 

Another vote for the PS4s. I actually took some nearly new Pzeros off mine and stuck them on eBay. I’m sure Pzero would be fine in the warm and dry but that’s not why I have an FF...

Cured tramlining and general feeling of low grip on colder/damp days. Gave me more confidence in the car which felt on edge before.

I actually did the same with my Maserati MC Stradale previously which come with Pzero Corsa on it. Great on a track day, rubbish everywhere else and downright dangerous below 10deg.

 

Michelin are great, but before choosing think about what you want to do with the car, for track use I would go PSC2, otherwise PS4S

 

Track tyres on an FF? If you tack that much, you use the wrong car.
By the way, before recommending tyres, you should consider the fact that the tyre you recommend is not available in the FF/Lusso size. Only track specific tyre that fits the FF/Lusso, is the Trofeo R, and that is the wrong tyre for this car every way. If you want to increase traction on an FF, use a set of 812 wheels with MPS4S 812 spec rubber. If you want to go mad, use the PZC4 TdF rubber. But like I said, the latter makes very little sense.

 

Are you saying there is an 812 specific PS4s? Mine are F tread so Ferrari compounds, I didn't know there was additional ones for the 812 specifically. Interesting.

 

I don't have a FF, and yes I see that it's not really the point. Having used Michelin over time and different cars(550, 456, 430) I can tell that they worked great for me

 

There's no such thing as a "Ferrari compound". The Michelin K and Pirelli F marked tyres are model specific. Like I explained in another thread, some tyres use different compounds, others do not. Some have a different tread, others have wider or narrower treads. The 275/35R20 and 315/35R20 K1 MPS4S are for the 812. The MPSS 285/30R20 and 315/35R20 K1 is the 599 GTO tyre. The 255/35R20 and 315/35R20 K2 is the F12 tyres. And so on and so on. Ferrari specific does not mean Ferrari compound, tighter tolerances or better quality control.
Look at the MPS4S in 245/35R20. There's a K1 and a K2. The K1 is the Lusso tyre and the K2 is the Porto variant. Once they come with a 488 MPSS replacement for the F8, that MPS4S will be the K3 if it shares the same load and speed index. K2 vs K1 simply means that K1 is an earlier variant than K2. Had the Porto and Lusso not shared the same load index, both 245/35R20 fronts would have been named K1 as they don't share the same rear size.

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I see, good information. My set of MPS4s are both K1 front and rear so I guess that's Lusso tyres by your description, obviously very similar to the FF.

 

We steer all customers towards Michelin, whether its a Ferrari, McLaren, Porsche or Lamborghini. We really do feel they produce the best tyres out there.

 

I switched to Michelins on my 2012 FF and it is a HUGE improvement! Can't recommend them enough.

 

I have just changed my FF’s tyres from Pirelli to Michelin PS4s K1s. Tramlining has gone. Road noise is reduced. Soooo much better.
Thanks to this thread for the good info.

 

hands down for Michelin as well.

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Just switched my 2015 FF from PZeros to the MPS4S. It drives like a different car. Ride quality is much better and as the previous poster wrote it’s much less sensitive to road camber and tramlining.

 

Nice looking F12 wheels on the FF...not sure if they can handle FF's weight, though.