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430 CCB calipers - got some great advice

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  1. houtie123

    houtie123 Formula Junior

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    I posted earlier about aiming to keep my car another 5+ years and doing a PPI at my indie.
    Well it came back last week.

    As part of the PPI he figured the CCBs were slightly binding. An inspection identified the majority of caliper pistons were degrading. Shame I don't have pics but the OEM stuff has a nickel coating which in time starts to lift. If not detected it can ultimately cause damage to the disc itself : mega $$$$$$

    Sounds similar to the OEM ball joint story...

    Hill Engineering make s/steel piston replacements which I've now fitted. I'm so glad this was picked up - am sharing with the forum so those with CCBs can get these checked as part of your preventative schedule
    FYI The car is an 08 with 12000 miles and gets very light use - never been tracked
     
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  3. Eric C

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    Sounds like another money grab to me.
     
  4. houtie123

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  5. houtie123

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    I don't believe so, as I was able to look at the OEM pistons and they were in a bad way. I'm no brake expert, but have been with my indie over 12 years
     
  6. Flea7

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    yes,
    They can get rusty and corroded if the nickel coating wears off. Also, the actual piston body can cause rust and make mess inside the shaft. I ran into this with my CCB rebuild. It wasn't too bad when I did them but I'm planning to switch out all the parts with Hills this coming winter. It is also a good idea to replace the gaskets. ( I know...duh!) :rolleyes:
     
  7. Eric C

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    Just doesn’t seem right for only 12k miles
     
  8. Flea7

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    yeah...12k miles does seem low but maybe it was ran hard...maybe tracked??
     
  9. mike32

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    Ball joints n mine lasted 6000 miles, chrome peeling off and slack
     
  10. c6vette

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    Miles and age are obviously two very different things
     
  11. Eric C

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    I mean. Was this car raced? Just doesn’t make sense to me but I’m also half retarded when it comes to brakes.
     
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  13. houtie123

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    I'm not the original owner but mileage and provenance lead me to suggest it has never been tracked at all - I certainly haven't .
    But I did see the nickel covering lifting off 4 of the Pistons - not as bad as Flea's - and I decided to proceed on the basis of getting any lowish priority items fixed as I'm wanting to keep the car for the foreseeable future

    I would never have thought of servicing - never mind replacing - the pistons - hence my original post to advise others
     
  14. Need4Spd

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    Corrosion in the caliper pistons is usually caused by moisture in the brake fluid. This may be from not changing it at least annually. Hard use (racing or track) could also cause it if the fluid is not changed often or soon enough afterwards. The extreme heat and cool cycles could cause moisture to enter. And it doesn’t help that Ferrari spec’d these with a coating that’s susceptible to corrosion.


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  15. houtie123

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  16. Need4Spd

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    Correct. Even though in a sealed system, brake fluid absorbs moisture so readily that it really should be changed at least annually.


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