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Buying Rolex while traveling?

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  1. desmomini

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    I'm about to do some work in Spain.

    Has anyone had experience with buying a high-end watch in Europe and bringing it back to the U.S.? I wonder if the VAT exemption works to make a big enough difference over U.S. dealer prices, and how exactly you reclaim your money.
     
  2. Innovativethinker

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    I’ve never spent the time to get the $$ back.

    I bought a statue while In Italy and I don’t think there was a vat charge. Maybe because they shipped it?

    I was surprised that I was contacted by a US agency to pay taxes on it after it got delivered
     
  3. Xrayv8

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    I've usually bought all my watches abroad. I bought a Datejust II while in Dubai and saved 30% off MSRP. It was brand new and no tax chatged in the UAE. I just ear it back on my wrist rather then into the checked luggage.
     
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    You are looking for trouble.

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  5. SFM5s159

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    I've purchased two Rolex watches while in Mexico. Paid less than US retail and saved sales tax. Was legit, authorized dealer. Almost worth the trip only to make a watch purchase.
     
  6. 95spiderman

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    What kind of trouble by wearing watch home?
     
  7. ylshih

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    #7 ylshih, May 14, 2018
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    I know someone who got caught doing that on a trip. I don't know if he got caught because the watch was too new, the serial number had a year code, or he had the papers packed in his bag or what gave him away. He had to pay the duty plus a fine. Plus he was automatically fully searched for the next 2-3 years on every re-entry. He had to write a letter pleading that he had learned his lesson and would never do it again, before they took him off the "always search" list.
     
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  8. 95spiderman

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    Wow thats crazy story.
     
  9. Xeron

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    Better to buy here on the grey market. I use feelgood watches. Don't mess with customs particularly if you have Global Entry. Not worth it
     
  10. darth550

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    Gotta ship the box and papers home and bring a watch roll, if you bring another one from home.
     
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  11. energy88

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    I've always been a little concerned about being accused (when bringing my existing watch back into the country) of trying to slip a new watch thru customs without declaring it. Anyway, there used to be a customs form one could complete and submit when leaving the country to prevent such a shake-down.
     
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  12. Brian Johnson

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    I can’t speak to Rolex specifics, but I just returned from a trip to the EU where my wife and daughter purchased some expensive handbags. Here’s a quick summary of the process:

    Buy the item at a store - pay the price plus VAT.

    Depending on the store, they will do the paperwork for you if you show your passport. You will have to use whichever third party company they use. Global blue and Premier Tax Free were the two we dealt with.

    When you depart the EU, you have to get in the long line at the airport to go through customs and file for your VAT refund. They may want to examine the item, which must be in new and unused condition (you can’t be wearing the item).

    They will either give you the refund in cash (Euros) or refund the amount to your credit card.

    We got the refunds too our credit cards in about three weeks.

    Exact refund percentages vary depending on the country but you can easily find that info online. If I recall correctly, Spain is around 13%.
     
  13. killer58

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    My experience is similar to Brian’s. I bought my Rolex in London. Dealer gave me the VAT form to get stamped at the airport. Only points I’ll add in my case were these: 1) had to remove the watch from the country within 30 days. 2) I was wearing mine but had the box and papers in my carry-on.

    Savings made it substantially less than buying in the states.
     
  14. Robyonekanobi

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    Same kind of Experience. Procured a Rolex in Munich, claimed the Vat Tax in Amsterdam as I was leaving the EU, and saved, well a pretty good chunk of change. I usually wear an expensive watch and even while being randomly checked, have never been asked... "where did you get the watch." If I was asked.... "Christmas Present from the wife." If you're seriously worried about this stuff, then don't do it. Some people can't cross the street unless the light tells them too.
     
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    To avoid any issues, I always take pictures of the watches I'm bringing on my cell before leaving, so the pics are date stamped. I usually bring 1-3 watches when travelling. On a recent trip to Zurich, I was told that you had to declare with customs at the airport before you leave, suspose to show the "tag" with the serial number.
     
  16. 3POINT8

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    great post thanks. i'm going to london in a few months and was hoping to buy a watch while there. i was thinking about just buying it and wearing it back and seeing what happens.
     
  17. Nospinzone

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    I would advise anyone thinking of smuggling anything into the US to watch "To Catch a Smuggler" on the Nat Geo channel. You may think you are smart, but they have seen it all, and you are not smarter. Not to say that you can't get past them, but if you don't, be prepared to face the consequences. ;)
     
  18. lopena

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    My advice is to not dick around with the Customs service...the downside far outweighs the potential upside of saving a few hundred bucks. After all, you did save on the VAT and you also didn’t pay any local sales tax here in the U.S., so suck it up and pay the duty.

    That being said, I’ve heard several stories of people who present themselves to U.S. Customs agents, ready to pay the duty on a watch, only to be waved through with a smile and a “have a nice day”. Collecting duties from returning citizens is not always the agents’ top priority...they’re looking for bigger fish.



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  19. Robyonekanobi

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    I travel in and out of countries on a monthly basis. Colombia, Russia, Madrid, Istanbul, Thailand, you name it. Honestly, this isn't a big deal or worthy of such examination. Nobody cares if you bought your watch in Prague or NYC or if you bought your Apple Air in Singapore or Las Vegas. Custom agents are looking for big fish. If you're bringing ten watches across the border, now you're interesting. Meanwhile if they snag a little fish from time to time because the little one set up red flags everywhere, easy pickings. Put the watch on your wrist, toss the box, stick the papers up your bum and go home. Let's not over think this. ;)
     
  20. 3POINT8

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    After reading this I think I'll just wait in the VAT line.
     
  21. ROMO

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    Depending on what country you visit the line aren't bad at all.
     
  22. ROMO

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    So today was a casual day and I wore my Patek 5712/G. :)
     

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    You got it in Europe ?
     
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    Do share where I can buy Rolex Daytona / GMT or a nautilus in Europe .

    The waiting list is too long
     
  25. ROMO

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    I get Patek's/Rolex's/ A. Lange Sohne at my local AD. I've been buying watches from them for over 20 years- during bad economic times and good ones.

    I just picked up the 5712R a week ago, but didn't feel right posting it in light of what the world is going through presently.
     
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