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458 or SLS amg?

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by nickF50, Oct 7, 2009.

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  1. leead1

    leead1 F1 Rookie

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    Depends on what you want

    Transportation I would go with the MB.

    If you are an enthusist the 458. The MB while a great car technically is boring compared to the 458. The first 458 will not be here untill the end of the year. I was inially told June.

    My F430 is more exciting than the MB. So the 458 should be even more impressive

    Good luck whatever you do.

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  2. J. Salmon

    J. Salmon F1 Rookie
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    It's just such a different car than almost anything else. Granted, for me it is so expensive that it would be my only car and then would be a stretch, and I am not a die hard MB fan. But if I were, or if I always wanted an original gull wing, the thing would be a must-have.

    If you have the coin to have several exotics, it would have to be something you at least drive. So far, everyone that has actually DRIVEN it has really been impressed. I don't see why people think the nose and the doors are bad when they seem wonderful modern adaptations of the old car - which is the point. Pictures cannot possibly do the car justice; they never do.

    It's so different from the 458 that it does seem to be a silly question. I'd love to have them parked side by side, I'll tell you that!
     
  3. willcrook

    willcrook Formula 3

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    The CLK DTM and CLK 63 AMG Black are both awesome cars.

    I drove a Brabus Rocket once, most bonkers car i've ever had the pleasure to drive.
     
  4. uuuu

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    Indeed, a much more reasonable question would be "SLS or 599" ? Now that the 599 has droped below 200k, and you can actually get one almost new for 150k+taxes, which is actually less than what a new SLS costs, I think I would go for the 599. Unless the SLS handles better that is.

    By the way, Wildcatter, can you tell us why you sold your 599 and got the SLS instead ?
     
  5. Wildcatter

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    Completed my SLS order last week. April build month, should have the car in May. It will be Imola grey with a red interior and the carbon fiber package, B&O sound system. Can't wait!
     
  6. Wildcatter

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    There is no question that the F430 and now my F430 Scuderia and R8 have a more connected, nimble "go kart" feel than the SLS, but I feel that the SLS does have more of the mid-engine feel than any other front engined car I've ever driven. And I've been fortunate enough to own some incredibly well handling front engine cars, like the e36 and e46 M3's, an Aston Martin Vantage, and of course my Ferrari 599.

    Actually, at the same time I drove the SLS out in Napa in the fall, I drove the R8 V10 on the same roads. The feel is surprisingly similar. While I gave the R8 an edge in overall handling, the double clutch transmission in the SLS was far superior to the R tronic unit that was in the R8 I drove. Overall I preferred the SLS, by a small margin.
     
  7. Wildcatter

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    Well, I owned a relatively early delivery 599, had about $400k into it, and was able to sell it for almost $350k. I liked the car, didn't love it, and for me it wasn't worth having that much capital tied up in something I wasn't head over heels in love with. I'm sure this view will be controversial, but I feel that the SLS is a more responsive and fun car to drive than the 599. I actually just checked the weights of both cars, and was surprised to find that the 599 is only just over 100 lbs heavier than the SLS. Feels like the difference should be greater. Perhaps the SLS has better weight distribution, but statistically it looks to be the same. Maybe it's just a function of the transmission (which is tremendous in the SLS by the way) and suspension set up. But the bottom line is as a daily driver, I prefer the SLS.

    As others have said, the V8 in the SLS is has the same block as the V8 in several other AMG models, including the C63 which I currently have as my daily driver. You wouldn't know it though from the way it performs. Feels like a much different power unit.
     
  8. Casino Square

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    ......oh, that is TOO funny...!! Not the reaction Mercedes was expecting i'm guessing.
     
  9. ibesuc

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    No one has ever been more wrong than you. SLS has become a modern classic! You fool!
     
  10. ibesuc

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    The combination of a traditional torque converter auto transmission with a high powered supercharged V8 makes for a very unique supercar experience IMO.

    Not much else out there quite like it. The auto transmission gives it a bad first impression among Carrera GTs and Enzos, but it ends up making up essential part of the car's character. Something about just mashing the gas pedal, feeling the torque converter kickdown and getting instant supercharged power and torque (while also hearing the supercharger whine).

    With this in mind, I think SLRs are fairly undervalued at the moment. When all sport cars are either dual-clutch/turbo or hybrid/fully-electric, people will begin to appreciate the SLR for what it was.
     
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  11. Alexcle

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    Sls amg black series. Coupe. If regular sls then 458.
     
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  12. IloveGT

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    You know you just called the dude from 10 years ago a fool right?

    Wow. The only purpose of this thread for me is to see some other user names active from 10 years ago and your reply that is only 10 years late.
     
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  13. Carnut

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    It has been 10 years since I commented on this thread, and I cannot even tell you how many cars I have gone through since my last post. I have driven 3 different SLS's and I thought they were okay. I also have a rather modified AMG GTS (it will burn rubber in third gear easily) which in my opinion is a far better car. I also have a 458 spider (and the open flash tablet to get rid of what annoys me), and I would not choose a SLS over either of those cars. If I did, I'd have one
     
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  14. MK11

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    Love the 10 year follow ups. I was reading this thread still trying to decide on on my first AMG car to waste money on. I am glad to read the feedbacks on the SLS as it was one of my options just for sound and V8 fun of it. Any current AMG GT owners comments would be good to read.


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  15. jim g

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    458
     
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  16. SoCal to az

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    The only interesting thing in this thread is that Youtuber Doug Demuro is/was on Fchat.
     
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  17. JanStuart

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    My daily is a 2106 AMG GTs, the weekend one is the 458 (waiting on November delivery of F8). No mods to either. Like my t-shirt says, Anyone can drive a fast car, but can you drive a car fast? Either works for fun, although prefer the 458 for that. Have some trepidation about losing the 458 to the F8. Twin turbo is just different. Just don't want to have 2 Ferraris, with one as a daily. Also, really love the GTs. Warranty runs out in 2 years and enjoy contemplating what I will replace that with. Probably a Porsche
     
  18. MK11

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    Since you daily the GT s a fair question is what is it you don’t like about it. Maybe it can help my decision some.


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  19. JanStuart

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    The only thing I don't like is that when I hit the accelerator had from a stop the rear is wiggley. Naturally aspirated just works better with that. I love the car and am certainly willing to avoid mashing the gas from a stop. Also had a bunch of Porsche GT3s and with Porsche's torque vectoring, traction control and rear steering, there is nothing comparable. just would rather drive the GTs as a daily. It is certainly more attractive.
     
  20. MK11

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    Best when it comes from the owner. Thanks for that. Having one AMG on my short list. Most likely a variant of the GT lineup.


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  21. JanStuart

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    anything but the GT R. too much of a car for anything but track use. Kind of like my Porsche GT3. Wonderful car but only for track and rallies
     
  22. cole328

    cole328 Formula Junior

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    Every car enthusiast, needs some sort of an AMG at some point. I have had a CLS 63 and now I have a 2019 AMG E 63S. The German engineering for a daily driver is bananas!


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  23. plastique999

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    I have a GTS bought for my wife but she rarely drives it... she feels it’s too low for her (ironically she prefers her G4x4).
    So I’ll take it to work once in a while. It’s a fun car!
    Pros: gobs of power and torque. Great exhaust note. Fast, fast, fast!
    Cons: it is pretty stiff even in comfort” setting. Steering is a bit heavy, as it feels heavier than a 458.

    I’ll probably put it up for sale because we rarely drive it.
    We have a ‘16 has barely 6500 miles on it.
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  24. MK11

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  25. MK11

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    The reviews point to GT C as the happy medium with rear wheel steering but I understand none of them really have soft ride.


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