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Discussion in 'Challenge/GT Cars/Track' started by 87testa, Dec 13, 2015.

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  1. 87testa

    87testa Formula Junior

    Dec 24, 2006
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    I think road registration combined with documented race history make these cars special.

    I would venture that the starting point for a car fully intact, no stories, no bits missing would be at least $100,000.00 US.

    They are being coveted and not a lot of published sales.

    My two cents
     
  2. SoCal1

    SoCal1 F1 Veteran
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    Jun 14, 2011
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  3. manxart

    manxart Karting

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  4. tomgt

    tomgt F1 Veteran
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    Asking price dropped to 199k USD for F355C 111496
     
  5. Ferrari 308 Vetro

    Ferrari 308 Vetro F1 Rookie

    Nov 12, 2012
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    Where is 111496 for sale?
     
  6. Jasonberkeley

    Jasonberkeley Formula 3

    Apr 23, 2017
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    What would a 1990 348 TS Ch car be worth? I assume any 1990 was not built as one of the 45 or so favtory designated cars that received kits, and those would only be 1994 cars? Is that correct?

    What if the 1990 car was never raced, but has full proper cage installed, seats, harnesses, and electric cut-off?
     
  7. Ferrari 308 Vetro

    Ferrari 308 Vetro F1 Rookie

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    why are you asking?
     
  8. Jasonberkeley

    Jasonberkeley Formula 3

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    Because i'm interested in purchasing a 348 Ch and am trying to educate myself. Why is the reason a concern of yours?

    A helpful response would have been preferred.
     
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  9. Ira Schwartz

    Ira Schwartz Formula 3
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    It's certainly not a "factory" Challenge car if it's a 1990, but having the full complement of Challenge parts (if in fact that's the case) is a big plus. IMHO though, the lack of any race history negatively impacts on its value. If it has a title and can be tagged for driving to/from track events, that'd be good.
    I've lately seen cars ranging in price from $70K (for the 1990 ts on offer by Bryan Circosta- is that the one we're talking about?) to $250K (for the unraced but formerly factory-owned one recently sold at auction by Sotheby's), but feel that a complete, well-maintained factory tb (not ts) Challenge car with known race history is the most valuable- but I'm biased, as I have one that fits that description!
     
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  10. JAM1

    JAM1 F1 Veteran
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    Would a Challenge that had been used as a factory press car (shown in numerous magazines, posters, replicated as toys, etc) have a different/higher valuation than a typically campaigned car?
     
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  11. stokpro

    stokpro F1 Rookie
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    Jun 25, 2003
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    I doubt it since it's been driven quite a bit. Maybe if it were no miles. I know that car!
     
  12. gowthamn

    gowthamn Karting

    Jan 21, 2019
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    How can we drive challenge cars on the streets in US? Is it because they are older than 25 years old?
     
  13. sherpa23

    sherpa23 F1 Veteran
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    348 Challenge and 1995 355 Challenge cars come with titles and you can register them and get plates. However, depending on where you live and the local regulations, it still may not be legal for street use.
     
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  14. stokpro

    stokpro F1 Rookie
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    There's at least one 458C EVO regularly driving the streets of Southern CA and one red 488C converted for road use near Dallas, TX. Not sure how they were able to get the cars 'streetable' but I wouldn't want to drive my Challenge on the street for many reasons.
     
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  15. BMW.SauberF1Team

    BMW.SauberF1Team F1 World Champ

    Dec 4, 2004
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    I'm wondering this too after seeing Stradman driving his 430C on public roads. Not sure how it's possible. I thought 1995 was the last year possible as said above.
     
  16. LVP488

    LVP488 F1 Rookie

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    In Europe the 355 Challenge was released as road legal (and it was the last to be, the 360 Challenge was not and this was used as the opportunity to make the 360 Challenge Stradale). Some later cars (e.g. 430 Challenge) have been converted for road use, with a single type approval - as if one wants to have approved a car he builds for himself.
     
  17. LVP488

    LVP488 F1 Rookie

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    It seems in Europe asking prices for 355 Challenge are currently ranging from EUR 120K to 170K.
     
  18. Juan-Manuel Fantango

    Juan-Manuel Fantango F1 World Champ
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    Love mine, 50k plus miles since 2004, including three one day epic drives of nearly 1000 miles. Straight loud challenge race pipe. Loudest Ferrari model I have ever heard. Ringing ears to this day. Stupid ....

    Just found an interesting photo. Dion Von Moltke stopped by the house one day. Neat young man and damn fast. Was dating a friend's daughter who attended Clemson. First Challenge car converted for Jim Kenton by Lake Forest, winning last 348 Challenge series 1996.

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  19. Jasonberkeley

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    I finally found an original Challenge ANSA straight race exhaust as well and put it on my 348 Challenge. Sounds SO good and SO loud. Love it!
     
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  20. timhood

    timhood Rookie

    Sep 23, 2014
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    Let's say you had a 1995 F355 Challenge in Rosso Corsa with about 13,500 miles on it in driver-quality condition and were looking to sell it. What price would you expect to get? Let's assume you needed to address the sticky parts and it's time for a major service with belt change. I've been doing a lot of research, but it sure it difficult to pin down a price of what these cars are actually selling for currently.
     
  21. Robb

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    Market is not consistent right now. and buyers are not everywhere. So it will take some time to sell.

    What will sell the fastest? Here is the list.

    Street Title.

    Most complete car in best possible condition (aesthetic and Mechanical) yes including the sticky interior fixed / what original equipment is missing. Does it have the period correct seats, steering wheel, roll cage, etc...

    Race History. Who drove it? Did it compete?

    Cool Livery and dealer / sponsors. Or is it just Red?

    Full records.

    mechanical needs / engine out done / brakes / clutch

    Price range $ 100 to 150K. Could be more. Could also be less if it is not complete with the above.

    Robb
     
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  22. timhood

    timhood Rookie

    Sep 23, 2014
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    After some 20+ years of ownership, VIN 101443 has been sold to another Ferrari aficionado. Thanks to Robb for your help in providing some interesting history on the car, including a write-up in Forza magazine. Thanks also to those here who expressed interest by private message and e-mail.

    This vehicle is titled and is currently in street-legal condition (working headlights, etc.). It has every part that was removed/replaced in the Challenge conversion, all manuals, original seats (not installed), etc. The interior was restored to what I think is great for non-competitive track and club run or charity run as well as casual day use. Maybe the best-looking F355 Challenge from the interior (at least that I've seen). I posted photos in another thread, but will add two here for posterity. :)
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  23. 308 GTB

    308 GTB F1 World Champ
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    That's a nice F355 Challenge! Congratulations to the new owner.

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  24. pj911

    pj911 Karting

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    Thank you...I'm excited to have it in my garage and look forward to driving it!
     
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