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  1. Igor Ound

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    Can only hope they’ll pull up a “Mercedes” this year and come to the last day of testing with a completely different and much faster car. Would explain the early reveal.
     
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  2. jpalmito

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    Bar front and rear wing I'm fairly certain this is the car we will see in Melbourne
     
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  3. TonyL

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    Looks more like its suitable for slicing salami, perhaps thats where they have gone wrong in the past!

    It doesnt bode well when they have to slam on the brakes and do a u turn in the design concept from last year, successful cars are built on evolution.

    Of course they had to work on all areas, we knew that Mr Binotto!

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  4. DeSoto

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    Looks like last year's car but slimmer and with more stuff attached. Also the suspensions are conservative compared to what everybody else is doing.

    Yet, I've read that engine and gearbox are brand new and that the final aero only will arrive for the last test, so we'll see.

    And I like the numbers.
     
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  5. jpalmito

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    S3 in Barcelona will be an interesting metric for the new car
     
  6. Borrow’d Mine

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    Would love to see Ricardo in red


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  7. TheMayor

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  8. TheMayor

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  9. Rosey

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    They probably realised if they have Mission Winnow on the official team wear there are about 5 countries they can't sell them in.
    This way without the Mission Winnow logo they can sell 2020 stock at every racetrack and country around the world.
    More sales equals more money for them.
     
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  10. freshmeat

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    let’s just hope it’s a nod to the winning past!!!
     
  11. TheMayor

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    Well, the 80's weren't exactly Ferrari's F1 golden years...
     
  12. freshmeat

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    bracing for the pain already buddy lol
     
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  13. jpalmito

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    Indeed 1982 was a tragic one ..
     
  14. jgonzalesm6

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    Ten key design points on the new Ferrari SF1000

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    By: Giorgio Piola
    Co-author: Matthew Somerfield
    Feb 13, 2020, 11:21 AM


    Using the Ferrari SF90 that raced last year as a yardstick with Giorgio Piola’s latest sketches of the SF1000 overlaid, let’s dive in and unlock the differences between these two machines...
    1. The nose utilises a similar cape solution to the design introduced by Ferrari in Singapore last season, with changes made to the nose tip shape in order to optimise its performance.

    2. The turning vanes have been brought forward and are more complex than last year, with seven elements now hung beneath the nose and chassis.

    3. The wheels have been redesigned with their partner O.Z. and feature longer spokes due to the central hub being reduced in diameter. This will allow more air to be passed through the brake duct assembly and out through the wheel face, a technique preferred by others last season given the prohibition of the blown axle solution.

    4. The bargeboards have been carefully redesigned to maximise flow to the sidepods and their inlets behind, with the forwardmost section divided into three and made even taller than last year. Meanwhile, a twin boomerang solution has been deployed with a slimmer one mounted at the front end of the assembly and a larger one at the rear.

    5. The innovative sidepod solution introduced in 2017, that placed the upper side impact spar at a lower and more forward locale has been retained but improved upon. It has clearly taken inspiration from Red Bull in this regard, with two winged sections above and ahead of the main cooling inlet allowing it to be much smaller, whilst also serving their own aerodynamic purposes. These changes have also led to a more aerodynamically beneficial wing mirror design, with both stalks serving as flow conditioning devices as well as supports for the actual mirror.

    6. The airbox retains its narrow trapezoidal shape, a feature that’s enabled the designers to install ‘horns’ either side, serving as flow conditioners that should improve flow to the rear wing. This is not a new solution, just one that has been reinterpreted for the prevailing regulations, with McLaren using a similar design back in 2005, something that other teams duly copied thereafter.

    7. The engine cover is dramatically slimmer and carries a much lower line thanks to work done by the powertrain department to repackage the power unit and ancillaries. This extends to the sidepods too, where we can see just how much tighter the packaging is when compared with its predecessor.

    8. An all-new gearbox, which has the same volume but is much narrower, permits much narrower bodywork at the rear of the car, improving flow into the coke bottle region.

    9. The T-wing is not dramatically new when compared with their opposition but does feature some novelties compared with last year's car. The double swan-neck rear wing supports have also been retained, as has the single element wastegate pipework, although work done at the tail end of last season could see them switch to a double wastegate arrangement at a later date.

    10. The endplate of the rear wing has been optimised for 2020, with care taken over the number and design of the strakes placed on the wider section of the wing. As usual, we’d expect to see a number of rear wing configurations throughout the season in order to cater for the demands of the specific circuit that they’ll be visiting.

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  15. jgonzalesm6

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    Ferrari not changing front wing concept but will have "quite a lot" more downforce

    Ferrari's decision to focus on reducing drag rather than increasing downforce with their 2019 car was a costly one as they lost more time in the corners than they made up on the straights.

    The front wing concept Ferrari had for the SF90 in 2019 was still bolted on at Tuesday's presentation of the SF1000, and Binotto explained this wasn't just for show.

    “We will not change our concept, it will remain like that, even on whatever we may test later on," the Italian was quoted by Motorsport.com.

    "I think this is the right concept for us. I think we improved a lot the downforce, not only through the wing but if you look at the car itself, turning vanes especially.

    "It's quite a lot of high complexity, I would say. The entire car, the slimmer car, makes as well the back of the car and the diffuser work better. So, finally I think the overall [downforce] has certainly increased.”

    Increasing downforce typically goes hand-in-hand with increased drag and therefore reduced top speed and Binotto knows this, although he does think his crew have found the right balance between low-drag and high downforce as he underlines they'll have a much stickier car in the corners now.

    “Where is the right balance? I think it's difficult to know, difficult to know what the others are doing as well. But certainly we increased by quite a lot our downforce.

    “As I said, I think the starting point of this car has been the one of last year, so we have not changed our concept. So let's say that the wheelbase and rake [are] pretty much similar.”

    https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/54673/binotto-on-car.html
     
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  16. TheMayor

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  18. Igor Ound

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  19. Drive550PFB

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    The Complexity of that design is amazing.
     
  20. Albert-LP

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    Why? Ferrari won the F1 title in 1982 (Ferrari 126C2, V6TT 1.5 liters) and 1983 (Ferrari 126C3, V6TT 1.5 liters).

    1982 was a tragic year, but a winning year as well: Ferrari dominated the 1982 Championship.

    ciao
     
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  21. jpalmito

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    Agree
    Sadly apart the tragic Villeneuve death , Pironi absolutely deserved the WDC this year.
     
  22. Jakuzzi

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    Qualy?? Wait for the checkered flag.
    Remember that MB/LH44 have been known to sandbag even during qualification, just to run away with the race... :(
     
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  23. Mitch Alsup

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    Which is a perfectly legal tactic.
     
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  24. Mitch Alsup

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    In other words, they learned almost nothing from last year's embarrassment.
     

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