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Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by eg9, Jan 4, 2020.

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  1. eg9

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    I was under the impression that all ‘10/‘11 458’s received the ‘12 software upgrade and problem solved? No?


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  2. DoubleD33

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    If I am not mistaken from the research i did before purchasing a 458 is that the transmission failure is a sensor in the transmission.

    I think the best way to put this to bed would be to see if Getrag updated a sensor sometime in 2011. I guess it too is plausible that software could cause a sensor to fail. This software theory may explain the California s issues but not sure.
     
  3. Tarek307

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    exactly, this isn't the first time on this forum this guy @melvoc goes around spreading this false uneducated BS , not sure what exactly he gains posting that garbage other than scare mongering and driving naive people away foolishly from certain model years..maybe he thinks this will increase the value of his model year lol
     
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  4. xfrgtr

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    I have a 2011 and no DCT issues.
     
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  5. Yellowgallardo1

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    my 458 is a 10 and has over 100k miles and while I’m trying to fix an issue have no dct issues.
     
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  7. Tarek307

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    why is that "beat up" it just needs a little TLC..no reason to call it "beat up" and its priced quite accordingly
     
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  8. LI2782

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    sorry, didn’t mean it in a derogatory or demeaning way. The TLC it needs isn’t from normal wear and tear so I don't think calling it beat up is totally out of line. Was a serious suggestion of a mechanically sound clean title car with a few cosmetic apologies from a reputable(though sometimes controversial) seller.
     
  9. ryalex

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    FWIW my techs warned me of the same. It's not that all 10/11/12 cars will fail, but if it does, it's about $34k. A private shop might be able to do it in the $16k range but Ferrari doesn't want the units opened up. A black swan: low probability over a short period, but significant consequences.
     
  10. Tarek307

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    #35 Tarek307, Jan 6, 2020
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    Below are screen shots of 2 which aren't 2010 or 2011 they are 2013 (of the several examples of 2013-2015)

    you're a little behind the times, 10,11,12,13,14,15 have all had failures..and now there is a solution thats around 5-6K they open up the trans and change a sensor. I can post many threads where 2013+ owners of California & 458 experienced these issues- usually always less than 10K miles on the car as well
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  11. italiafan

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    Does that mean that if your car has many miles you may be reassured that the DCT is a “good one” long term? I have a 2013 Spider with 34K trouble-free (touch wood) miles....
    Thanks!
     
  12. Il Co-Pilota

    Il Co-Pilota F1 Veteran

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    This.

    And if you wait, maybe someone else will get the same idea as you.

    Make the offer. At least you open up room to make a deal. As for the DCT thing? It would more than likely have shown itself at this point in time - both due to mileage and age. Get a warranty if you worry.
     
  13. SPOM13

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    I seriously considered getting a 458 with higher miles and maybe an accident... and then I reflected back on the 360 spider I bought 10 years ago like that, ended up deciding against it. Many reasons, but mainly resale and warranty. These cars are so complicated to repair by yourself, so many issues have to be sorted at a dealer, or you just leave them. You have to ask yourself if you’re willing to find hidden problems and pay for them down the line, or maybe it doesn’t have any hidden problems and you luck out. Just bought a 2011 458 a few weeks ago with low miles and LOVE knowing I can drive it for 2 years and not worry about additional bills or a questioning buyer when I sell it bc it was CPO from the dealer. Good luck with your search. That was the funnest part for me. :)
     
  14. Yellow Compass

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    My Brothers this 458 JUST QUALIFIED FOR THE FULL POWER WARRANTY AT THE FERRARI DEALER
    PS IT HAPPENS TO BE A VERY NICE CAR FOR THE MONEY :)
     
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