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USA Dealers allowed to list NEW cars, for first time

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by JTSE30, Nov 23, 2019.

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  1. JTSE30

    JTSE30 F1 Rookie

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    #1 JTSE30, Nov 23, 2019
    I just noticed this

    https://www.cars.com/for-sale/searchresults.action/?mkId=20014&page=1&perPage=50&rd=99999&searchSource=SORT&sort=listed-newest&stkTypId=28880&zc=60606

    I think all the Ferrari dealers doing this are all part of the Mattioli Automotive Group.

    I know as recently as July FNA did not allow its dealers to list new cars for sale except in extraordinary situations such as if the person who ordered the car had passed away.

    Now, it appears that embargo is lifted.

    and since only one dealer group (Mattioli Automotive Group) is doing this at the moment, I suspect all the other Ferrari dealers will be doing this soon...this is a HUGE change...

    Could it lead to Ferrari dealers being allowed to order cars for stock without being personally ordered by customer (like all other car manufacturers currently do...)

    interesting development!
     
  2. Hocakes

    Hocakes Formula Junior

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    #2 Hocakes, Nov 23, 2019
    $300K cars & zero pictures. Good work :rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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  3. BMW.SauberF1Team

    BMW.SauberF1Team F1 World Champ

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    #3 BMW.SauberF1Team, Nov 23, 2019
    Looks like they are selling build slots imo...I don't think those cars exist yet even though they are listed as having a VIN. The first one listed (ZFF89FPA8K0246969) has zero records that it's even going through customs or whatever yet.
     
  4. willrace

    willrace Three Time F1 World Champ
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    #4 willrace, Nov 23, 2019
    "MSRP of $297,000, but for this week only, discounted to $350,000 from our everyday price of $355,000......"
     
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  5. 96redLT4

    96redLT4 Formula Junior

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    #5 96redLT4, Nov 23, 2019
    Maybe they are used cars that have just had the miles reset to 0
     
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  6. JTSE30

    JTSE30 F1 Rookie

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    #6 JTSE30, Nov 23, 2019
    I actually have first-hand knowledge of some of those cars as being real cars that original person who ordered walked away/abandoned, so I am presuming that many if not all the others are the same. Combine that with the realization they were all uploaded in the past day...and I presume they are all bona-fide new cars.

    And, for new cars, carfax will not have any records as that generally only occurs once a car is first titled (and not still on MSO)...
     
  7. LARRYH

    LARRYH F1 Veteran
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    #7 LARRYH, Nov 23, 2019
    they need to be able to do this with the increased volume goals and the new models coming out so fast ..
     
  8. JTSE30

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    #8 JTSE30, Nov 23, 2019
    Heard back from some dealers, embargo is NOT LIFTED, so, something is not right about all those new cars being put on cars dot com... I suspect they may be taken down shortly...

    sorry for the confusion, it looked like something new had happened that would be quite significant, maybe it will happen in the future, but not now.
     
  9. OldDog

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    #9 OldDog, Nov 24, 2019
    I guess the listings showing 0 miles are their way of saying they have not been titled. I have never seen one delivered to a dealer with less than 50 miles.
     
  10. arizonaitalian

    arizonaitalian F1 World Champ
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    #10 arizonaitalian, Nov 25, 2019
    there are loads of cars listed there (31 in the link at the moment). Its highly unlikely they have that many cars ordered without owners. Something weird going on. Perhaps all used cars, but flagged as "new" in error on cars.com (many are 2018's which should not have any new ones around at this point, but more to the point I'm gonna go out on a limb and say thew 1984 512 is not a new car). Or perhaps somebody uploaded all of their cars to the cars.com platform for some reason (like maybe for tracking/stats, or maybe by accident, or many they somehow auto-loaded to cars.com from another system - I'm sure they use cars.com platform for their used cars, so maybe...)
     
  11. F355 Fan 82

    F355 Fan 82 F1 Veteran

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    #11 F355 Fan 82, Nov 25, 2019
    I think this is cars automatically going up on the site when they come in. Recently when I was looking for a G63 every MB dealer around me would have 3 or 4 on the site with stock photos, I'd call in and the car was one that was ordered and when it came in it automatically went up on the site with the vin number and specs but car wasn't for sale, I'd imagine thats the same deal.

    Like this, just checked still "for sale"
     

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