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430 Removing ‘sticky’ coating from switches

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  1. tonyl8281

    tonyl8281 Karting

    Jul 1, 2014
    101
    Hi, some advice please.
    I read on a recent thread that isopropyl can be used to remove the content awful sticky coating on the switches. Is this the case? If so, do the switches need to be removed from the car or can they be done in situ? I’m aware that there is at least one specialist company doing re-finishing of these switches, I think in the US, but I’m based in the UK and would not really want to strip out the switches and send them overseas if it can be avoided.
     
  2. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn Karting

    Jul 10, 2019
    101
    Springfield, MA
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    J
    I did it without removing the switches. But it’s hard to get all of it as there are little crannies and my big bulgy fingers couldn’t navigate those areas.

    Also I got a lot of black stuff on my leather and had to clean that out as a phase 2.

    It took about 1.5 hours.
     
  3. Bill ochrane

    Bill ochrane Karting

    Oct 26, 2018
    202
    Galveston, Texas
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    William Cochrane
    OH BOY!
    Here we go AGAIN!
    Just get some 99% alcohol and some white rags and DIY.
    LOL
     
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  4. Dean Palmer

    Dean Palmer Formula Junior

    May 21, 2010
    406
    St. Petersburg, FL
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    Yeah, actually, this is all you need to do. I use 91% as that is what was available, and works well. Use lots of clean rags and work them around with brushes as needed in the nooks and crannies. Q-tips work well too. A search will reveal countless threads on this. Just be aware some graphics are durable, and some are removed along with the sticky. The word "lock" on the door levers may come off, and on my 360 the center AC vent arrows were removed. You can also send out to have those replaced but few people care.
     
  5. tonyl8281

    tonyl8281 Karting

    Jul 1, 2014
    101
    Thanks for the great responses, really helpful and I’ll give it a shot over the winter months. Makes you wonder why Ferrari and others used such a crummy coating in the first place!
     
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  6. Dean Palmer

    Dean Palmer Formula Junior

    May 21, 2010
    406
    St. Petersburg, FL
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    They use it for the tactile feel that nothing else seemed to give at the time, and it's not exclusive to cars. In recent years and even the other day I had to clean the same stickies off many other items from security cameras to digital tire pressure gauges. Who knew a security camera needed a special grippy coating??? (yeah it did not, but gave it a techy look I guess) I think it's all about the sale, and these coatings give a mysteriously luxurious finish that other coatings could not. At least there is a simple fix in most cases.
     
  7. Bill ochrane

    Bill ochrane Karting

    Oct 26, 2018
    202
    Galveston, Texas
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    William Cochrane
  8. tonyl8281

    tonyl8281 Karting

    Jul 1, 2014
    101
    Thanks for the very interesting explanation as to why the coating is used, shame it goes so yucky!

    Thanks also for the steer on which isopropyl to buy.
     
  9. MJGinTX

    MJGinTX Karting

    Mar 30, 2019
    158
    Noblesville, IN
    I used denatured alcohol-as suggested in numerous posts here. Between using a clean wash cloth and some Qtips.

    Not sure why people complain about process - as I found process to be quick and very easy.

    Stickiness has not returned and I have been extremely happy with results.
     
  10. wbt

    wbt Karting

    Nov 28, 2014
    231
    New Zealand
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    Wayne
    If you're in the UK, methylated spirits does a fine job. Cleaned my car up beautifully. I highly recommend removing all switches and buttons as you go otherwise you will have a black mess all over your leather. And those stains do not come out easily.
     
  11. SlowScud

    SlowScud Karting

    Oct 10, 2019
    84
    Texas
    Is there a long term fix for this? As in does someone make a set of knobs that use a better material that will last?
     
  12. Bill ochrane

    Bill ochrane Karting

    Oct 26, 2018
    202
    Galveston, Texas
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    William Cochrane
    The "long term fix" is to simply use the alcohol as suggested. The sticky does not come back.
     
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  13. MJGinTX

    MJGinTX Karting

    Mar 30, 2019
    158
    Noblesville, IN
    Agree. I used denatured alcohol and problem has not come back. Parts look and feel perfect
     
  14. Dean Palmer

    Dean Palmer Formula Junior

    May 21, 2010
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    As stated, it is the coating that goes sticky, not the parts themselves. Once you remove this aged coating, there is nothing else there to become sticky. Your parts are now bare base material and will stay perfect forever, unless of course a nuclear blast comes along ;-)
     
  15. SlowScud

    SlowScud Karting

    Oct 10, 2019
    84
    Texas
    If someone made these bits in a nice, durable oem looking material with no sticky stuff I’d pay for that instead of going through the hassle. I like tinkering but cant say this project sounds like a fun one to me.
     
  16. Bill ochrane

    Bill ochrane Karting

    Oct 26, 2018
    202
    Galveston, Texas
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    This project is not for everyone. It takes a diploma in rocket science. Wipe on alcohol, wait 3 seconds, wipe off. Really complicated. And messy. If you get sticky on your finger, you will have to either use alcohol to clean it off, or send them out like folks do with the sticky parts, and have someone else clean your fingers. Pretty expensive, but hey, it's only money.
     
  17. tonyl8281

    tonyl8281 Karting

    Jul 1, 2014
    101
    Does anyone know whether the decals/logos are removed by the isopropyl alcohol on the P and warning triangle buttons? I used this stuff on the window switches and it worked really well. Bit fiddly and needs a fair number of cotton buds and other wipes but not difficult.
     
  18. Graz

    Graz Formula 3

    Oct 15, 2012
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    You will remove some but not all of the decals with alcohol. I believe the “lock” labels on the doors will come off. Be careful around any of the lettering, numbers or arrows just to be safe. Understand that this is a very inexpensive fix and you get what you pay for:). StickyRx is the best route if you want perfection. I did clean the switches on one of my cars with a product called “Greased Lightning.” The results were acceptable but since then been using StickyRx for better than new permanent refinishing.
     
  19. My 1st

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    Aug 12, 2017
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    Gladwyne, PA
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    Apologies if this concern has been addressed in another thread. The previous owner corrected most of the sticky bits except the vent rings and the vent at the base of the windshield. The rings will go to StickyRX, but I have been cautioned to leave the defroster vents alone since their removal and replacement is dicey. Will the alcohol damage the leather? My dash is perfect and I do not want to jeopardize it.
     
  20. Dean Palmer

    Dean Palmer Formula Junior

    May 21, 2010
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    The alcohol will not always damage the leather but it can if soaked or rubbed hard, so best not to contact the leather. That said, the defroster vents are not something that gets touched, so not usually a candidate for a fix. You can use q-tips and foam brushes to get to them without removal, with care. The vents can be removed, and there are some strings here on FC if you search.
     
  21. tonyl8281

    tonyl8281 Karting

    Jul 1, 2014
    101
    Not sure if my earlier question has been answered. Has anyone removed the sticky coating with isopropyl alcohol on the switches marked P for the parking sensors and the red triangle denoting the hazard warning lights. If so, did the logos remain intact and unaffected by the cleaning agent?
     
  22. My 1st

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    Aug 12, 2017
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    Dean, thanks. My defroster vents get almost liquid in the summer. If my dog shakes her head, hair gets stuck on the vents and I can’t get my fingers in there easily to remove them. A very minor problem.
     
  23. shad99

    shad99 Formula Junior

    Dec 12, 2013
    300
    Japatul Valley, CA
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    Andy
    I cleaned mine with isopropyl alcohol. Logos were unaffected.
     
  24. Need4Spd

    Need4Spd F1 Veteran

    Feb 24, 2007
    6,645
    Silicon Valley
    In addition, exercise care because the black, tarry stuff, once dissolved by the alcohol onto a towel or Q-tip, will stain the leather.

    I’ve been wanting to clean my vents, not that I touch them, but because they are turning shiny as well as sticky. You can’t easily remove them for cleaning because they’re fastened from under the dash.


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  25. LorenzoR

    LorenzoR F1 Rookie
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    Actually, all my vents just pulled out pretty easily and then you can pop off the ring to clean if you wanted
     

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