599 HGTE retrofit values versus factory fit

Mate if you do not have the Handling GTE Seats it is not an original HGTE those seats are lighter made in carbon same specs as the GTO only the leather design & finishing is different from 599 GTO ... You can ask anywhere... They weight the same made in carbon same as GTO

 

Jorge- Not true, the HGTEs were available with whatever seats the client wanted. Only way to tell is to look at a build sheet or option sheet to see what was originally ordered.

 

Hi Tazandjan

I was also only aware this summer in Madrid at the service garage when mechanics were taking photos of my car and sending them to Maranelo Design center as it is one car MADE BY THEM not an order the car was originally sent to the Madrid Comercial Director and it is simply gorgeous ... To Check if my car was the one that design in 2011 they asked that from the mechanics PICTURES FROM THE FRONT GRILL !?!?!
Seats I also was informed that since November 2009 on that the HGTEs From 2009 - on Had sure the seats marked "Handling GTE" as they were less heavy seats than GTB Fiorano ...

Second the Front Grill HGTEs have a different Front grill also LESS HEAVY than the GTB Fiorano models "less row blades"

See attached pictures of Front GTB Fiorano Front Grill and HGTE Front Grill ... Also HGTEs can order one "mesh" GTO style type front grill wictc will fit on original bumper button on GTB Fiorano Bumper Order form sucederiacarparts ( the less expensive Grill available)
HGTE is less heavy very expensive one and deferent alloy also has less "baldes on it" Ferrari Guys search and look for this detail first than any other one when checking if it is an ORIGINAL HGTE or not ...

Also see pictures my car at Maseratti Madrid for service this September ... the stripes are an original item from design center in Maranello an option on the appertas but only 5 cars 599 were made with those grey stripes on the car ... Appertas 03 one in California second in Brunei the 3 ??? They think is lost due to an accident that third appertains with stripes and 02 HGTE ( only two) mine and other for Russia..

Look at my HGTE (stripes) and the interior details and colors of ac vent buttons etc all done originally at the Maranello design center just to cause emotions on clients for an test drive (car was from Madrid comercial department ), clients never order such combinations coffee tan red carbon interior as they said to me sadly choose black grey trims mostly
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OK if you say so ... I respect .... Tazandjan I only tell what I heard from Ferrari mechanics they are not the car designers ...
I heard that up to NOV 2009 you could order the HGTEs with pentagram wheels and not "Handling GTE" embroiled in seat but seats were always different (carbon structure) and less heavy as made in carbon as GTO Seats but different ones upoldhstery different from the GTO and even other things I do not know But HGTE Seats are if less heavy than GTB Fioranno .
But sure they are not 100% the same weight as GTO. The GTO Seats are even lighter than HGTE Seats...

 

Here is the HGTE seat Detail : enbroidment
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Jorge- One of our FChatters did not like the HGTE seats and ordered Daytona seats instead. That is the only reason I knew they were available. There is a thread here somewhere on his HGTE.

 

My factory HGTE was spec’d without the alcantara inserts on the seats, but leather. I’ve seen them spec’d without the stitching in the seats as well.

 

Bill- I am not too fond of alcantara either, but I like the stitching.

 

My '11 599 with factory HGTE has the full CF seat backs and Alcantara/Beige leather seat combo, but the "Handling GTE" was a 'delete' option so it does not have the embroidered words; only the embroidered Cavallino Rampante logos. Likewise, my tach face is not in standard 'white' but in optional 'yellow'.

As I had mentioned in a past post, there were selectable options on the purchase order form to add, delete or change certain features on factory HGTE models per customer preference. That's a fact!

Jorge amigo, esa es la verdad. Por cierto, su auto se ve lindo y único!

I have both the original window sticker and the manufacturing build sheet to prove my 599 is an original factory HGTE even though some features were changed or deleted.

 

Hi Da Butcher

All Ok if is an HGTE has to have the CB seats

I Did not Knew that the stitching.and enbroidment was possible to delete ...
Alcantara is also standard on HGTE ( less heavy) another secret the rear cavallino rampante symbol on te rear truck is less heavy also and "non shinning" mate black or mate silver on Original HGTE...
I was not aware of those secrets only this summer when I showed up with my car on the Santogal Madrid Dealer to pick up service parts and take the car to Maserati Service where is now their best mechanic ever in Spain PABLO Wich happens to be my friend I made questions about it and they started communicating with the factory guys so I got aware that HGTEs the "original ones" are very important buys and Ferrari "follows" them ...
They said there were only around 200- 216 of them produced and factory follows them discreetly even if the late 209 on HGTE had their better improvements and were even less "heavy" the the late 2007-2008 ones... The best ones done were the "Fernando Alonso" Versions ...
It is a matter of less weight and reprograming of gearbox + engine software and car software ...

BUT Kilos are the main matter on HGTEs (Mechanic Words) and Production Guys look after them because they had to follow a lot of steps differently then the GTB production ...

Just Bought mine by Hazzard my Friend Pablo told me the car was almost new with 11 000 Kilm when sold and as new...

If you have one Original don't sell it !!! In Europe only Ferrari Guys Dealers etc cares about the HGTEs and "follow" who owns (where they are how they are cared/serviced) But they are not so much expensive then the GTB ... Only a handfull of people knows about their value... For the moment as I "feel"

 

Mate

I Just do not comment such thing ....

 

WHAT Year ??? Late one 2009-2010 or first production ones ???
Pentagram Wheels???

 

Mine is a 2010 with the factory HGTE package. Just no alcantara inserts on the seats, or steering wheel.

 

Yess I've seen some like that no Alcântara no enbroidment and pentagram wheels but only 2007 - 2008.. Ok Note in Europe they just don't care so much about HGTEs only Ferrari people working at dealers I do not know what is the reason they just "follow" those cars I felt that lately at last service...

 

Hi guys
Found this old thread which pretty much deals with my current situation. Judging from where we were in 2019, factory HGTEs seem to considerable more expensive (and harder to find as well) - range from 200-220k EUR?
Having said the only one currently I found in Europe (which coincidently is pretty much in the colour combination Im looking for) is this one:
https://preowned.ferrari.com/en-GB/a/europe/used-ferrari/denmark/formula-automobile/599-gtb-fiorano/ZFFFD60B000171910-1696852819157
ant thoughts? Probably a bit on the expensive side, however Ferrari dealer and I guess factory HGTEs in desired colour combination pretty rare btw now…

 

https://www.tomhartley.com/used-car-details/used-ferrari-599-gtb-fiorano-hgte-coupe-bianco-avus-f1-petrol/id-12492/
One just sold / under offer at Romans International as well for £130,000.
https://www.romansinternational.com/used/cars/ferrari/599/gtb-hgte-2235

 

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/15345324https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/15345324
This one also is LHD.

 

post-brexit I believe it’s 10% customs plus 19% VAT to bring it to EU but still interesting price

 

this car was for sale in June 2022 with less kilometres for 166.599 € in Germany ! You woke up too late
If you are in Paris, the cheapest one is at 209.000 but G. Silverstone. 200/220 is definitely too much for an Hgte but the offer is very rare these days. I remind you the extra cost of an Hgte compared to "normal" Gtb was 21.349 € !

 

if bought at listed price (£115,000) it reaches 152k after taxes and 176k € after exchange, still cheaper than the german/danish one but combo not so nice ( and extra expenses to bring car in Fr)