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  1. Coincid

    Coincid F1 Rookie

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    Americans are very ethno centric. They are the center of the universe and possess very little knowledge or interest in the rest of the world.Citizens of small countries like Canada and Australia have a more worldly view and generally are very aware of US politics and culture.

    BTW- The speaker or writer "implies" while the listener or reader "infers" from that implication.
     
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  2. Coincid

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    The claimed depreciation on 720S is being exaggerated here. In Canada, they are holding up at least as well as Lamborghini or Ferrari. Certainly not worse. The listed prices on Auto Trader, eBay and Cars.com are not reflective of inordinately steep devaluation. Used 720S going from a low of $270K- $330K or more. A 720S at 50% off would be a steal.
     
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  3. Coincid

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    Concerning Mclaren, it seems that depreciation is not the primary concern. From what I glean from the Mclaren forums, reliability and corporate's eagerness to deny warranty claims on a wide variety of manufacturer's defects appears to be a significantly more worrisome issue. Some owners' accounts amount to horror stories.
     
  4. SoCal to az

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    This is true
     
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  5. SoCal to az

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    Agree but don’t let anonymous internet posters who don’t actually own the car tell you otherwise. :)
     
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  6. Il Co-Pilota

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    I'm quite sure you can get the F150 in the UK with RHD. I've seen them a few times. Even better, I think you can actually get a Ram 1500 in RHD as well.;)
     
  7. daytona355

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    There are a few imports here, but they are rare. Trouble is the roads aren’t big enough to really be able to use them. My gardener had a viper engines ram, loved it, but he ended up getting fed up with the tiny parking spaces, narrow roads and ignorant people on the roads that gave him grief in it. I personally would have run up and over the morons, he’s too nice to em
     
  8. saraojo

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    Higher mileage 720s are trading in at 235-240k lowest. Original MSRP $360-380k. 37% off maximum not 50%
     
  9. Shadowfax

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    #159 Shadowfax, Jun 28, 2019
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    No it's definitely not exaggerated and if anything what Mandalay reported is quite generous I would have said. Maybe it's a case where this situation is geo dependant - who knows - can only report what's going on over here....and it's pretty common knowledge for those in the industry and, in the know. Certain mac models are clearly worse than others. For e.g. the 570 is a total disaster zone and I've personally heard first hand of new cars being offered for nearly half list and still not shifting. What you also need to be mindful of is that the prices you see these cars advertised on the auto trading sites doesn't reflect actual sale prices so I wouldn't pay too much attention to asking prices if I were you. The fact is to get any Mac out the door these days is very rare indeed and usually involves it being sold for absolute peanuts. And used values are in even worse shape if you can imagine.....impossible to shift.
     
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  10. IPO1

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    Cars.com lowest priced used 488 : $219K ; lowest price 720 $260K.

    BTW for the Ford lovers (haters) the GT500 pricing came out today and $100K will get you a track pack one.

    What a great American Made 760 HP toy to have fun with (I'm adding to garage).

    For the record NOT comparing to Ferrari (for the sensitive here).
     
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  11. Shadowfax

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    Depreciation is rarely considered in the buying process and during the ownership phase due to hype and general excitement. It's usually only after one experiences a few problems that reality sets in and takes hold. Those few lucky enough to avoid any problems of significant inconvenience generally speak favourably and tend to remain relatively intact up until the selling phase, and at that point that's usually when the tears begin to flow and reality takes a very nasty bite.
     
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  12. KINGMONKEY

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    The F8 is 18 months out .If they ask for a deposit that means a longer wait
     
  13. Art138

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    I visited RossoCorsa dealership in Milan on Wednesday and they told me Q1 for first allocations. Has something changed?

     
  14. LVP488

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    The 488 was released in 2015 and the 720S in 2017, so most probably the cheapest 488 is older and has more miles than the cheapest 720S; also when both were on sale the 720S was also priced between 5% and 10% more than the 488 GTB.
     
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  15. F12JAJ

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    All great points.


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  16. KINGMONKEY

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    If you have spec'd one out , Prepare for a wait , The factory has not even started production on the F8 currently they are in Pista mode ,They close whole month of august and return to pista mode , Italians love excitement and drama then you get the waiting game
     
  17. of2worlds

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    I understand your point about concentrating mostly on the Pista. However they have also been building a few of the F8 models like the one pictured below on test plus a matte blue example to. Also there are other F8 models completed as well.

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  18. LVP488

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    Assumption is that those F8 are not customers cars, they are still demo cars (the first presentations in Europe only used the Geneva cars, now Ferrari is dispatching more cars to different regions and will then build the dealers cars before customers cars).
    The word from Ferrari dealers has consistently been that first customers cars will be delivered Q1 2020.
     
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  19. KINGMONKEY

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    It is my experience ordering cars in all series 430 thru Scuderia , 458 thru Speciale Aperta ,488 thru Pista , I to Spec'ed a F8 it takes time I could be wrong by a couple of months . I would expect mine closer to 2021
     
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    This slower exposure rotating shot blurs the lights and makes it look like a satin finish. I tweaked the blu corsa. Now this makes my heart yearn...

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  22. Gh21631

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    Ha, I have a "jackpot" GT 500 slot, 1 of 300 in the country. I think I am going to spec it very similar to a Pista I saw. :)
     
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  23. Gh21631

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    #173 Gh21631, Jun 29, 2019
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    Ferrari dealers can't advertise them. Pistas are are on resale behind closed doors as well but they aren't trading too fast or for what people expected.
     
  24. Gh21631

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    Nah, not enough Pistas to make a dent. There are just other options. I think the F8 will help keep the prices flatter on the 488 as Ferrari raised the base price. Whether a 488 or 720 they are both a lot of car in that ~$250K price range.

    QUOTE="MANDALAY, post: 146681561, member: 143328"]On a positive there are only 2 488 GTB's for sale through Ferrari in my state so there isn't the selection available. [/QUOTE]

    Tons for sale in the US and other countries but I wouldn't use this as an indicator. Many of us get bored and trade for something else or a newer model.

    Nowhere close in the US market but eventually they will get there and I believe they will flatten out depending on the economy.

    The Aussie market means nothing to the US and Europe, you guys have your own issues to deal with on car prices and resale that dont impact or reflect other markets.

    I haven't been to this section in a while, it is funny to see the same people saying the same thing after all this time.
     
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  25. Gh21631

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    People tend to care for what might impact them. Australia's auto market doesn't matter to the US and neither does Canada's. Perhaps Europe and China might at some level. I think it is more economy driven than anything else.
     
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