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  1. DonB

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    #26 DonB, Jun 8, 2019

    Hey, could you send me an email with your contact info? Send it to [email protected]. Thanks
     
  2. jacques

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    #27 jacques, Jun 8, 2019
    door jamb light switch
     
  3. jacques

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    #28 jacques, Jun 8, 2019
    It's a Fiat 124 door jamb switch. $6.00 USD. Just don't tell'em that it's for an Fcar. JQ.
     
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  4. jacques

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    #29 jacques, Jun 8, 2019
    Just try to remember who owned Ferrari back in the the day. Ferrari made many visits to the Fiats parts bis for most of our cars (of all models), and there are still billions of
    Fiat parts available. Jq.
     
  5. Martin308GTB

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    #30 Martin308GTB, Jun 8, 2019
    nope.

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  6. Andrew McCrae

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    #31 Andrew McCrae, Jun 8, 2019
    And I couldn't agree more, all small companies raided the parts bins and even big ones do now for whole engines even. However it appears the the 308 door switch is an exclusive although I still don't believe it could be.

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  7. Martin308GTB

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    #32 Martin308GTB, Jun 8, 2019
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  8. Andrew McCrae

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    #33 Andrew McCrae, Jun 8, 2019
    But the bolt is not original.
    Nice bit of Cad Martin. What did you use?

    The original is very simply designed but not so easy to make. I know I have this a little wrong but equipment originally used would have dies and punches, presses, lathe, swager, spot welder etc. And some amount of man hours. To remake the same way would not be cheap. Modern CNC cutters would eliminate the dies and punches but some press work still needed. Plus the assembly work.

    Its a pity there's no list of fiat/ferrari suppliers to chase.

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  9. Martin308GTB

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    #34 Martin308GTB, Jun 8, 2019
    Of course :) Purists would prefer the cheaply made riveting, which is the first thing, which will fall apart. Consider it as a product evolution elimating the weakest spot.

    PTC Creo Parametric 4.0 (formerly ProEngineer)

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  10. Saabguy

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    #35 Saabguy, Jun 8, 2019
    Looking at the drawing it seems that I'm missing something: aren't these just a way to interrupt the ground? So normally not grounded (closed circuit) until plunger is out right. But it looks like it is grounded through the case the entire time. Maybe I'm just not getting the materials right?
     
  11. thorn

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  12. Andrew McCrae

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    #37 Andrew McCrae, Jun 8, 2019
  13. Martin308GTB

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    #38 Martin308GTB, Jun 8, 2019
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    Like Andrew said. It's drawn with the plunger out/door open/interior light on.
    The contact piece with the spade connector is insulated against the plunger by two plastic washers.

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  14. Martin308GTB

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    #39 Martin308GTB, Jun 8, 2019
    When some other FChatter has found a manufacturer, which is willing to produce a three digit batch at a competitive price. For such a low tech part it may even be China or India ;)


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  15. Crowndog

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    #40 Crowndog, Jun 8, 2019
    Pm sent
     
  16. Andrew McCrae

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    #41 Andrew McCrae, Jun 9, 2019
    Thanks to another Fchatter there may be another source for these door switches. I have asked the possible suppliers to confirm descriptions and if good, myself and Martin308GTB are going to buy some this week to confirm. Price should be good too. I'd sooner not go into further detail in case we raise peoples hopes on quality and price.
     
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  17. mike996

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    #42 mike996, Jun 9, 2019
    Well, most car companies didn't/don't make most of their car's parts. Ferrari (and Ford or Toyota, etc) doesn't make light switches, thermostats, brake systems, ignition systems, computer-control systems, carburetors/fuel injection systems, etc, etc, etc. Car makers are actually "car assemblers." So...like most of the other components, the door switch in question was most likely from some company who supplied them to various users. Now, whether they are still available is a different question but I can't imagine there aren't plenty of them around since it is extremely unlikely that they were made JUST for Ferrari.
     
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  18. Martin308GTB

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    #43 Martin308GTB, Jun 9, 2019
    Meanwhile it's quite clear that they actually were not.
    As soon as we have had the switches in our hands, we will reveal the secret :)

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  19. Saabguy

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    #44 Saabguy, Jun 9, 2019
    I realized it was with the plunger out. I think that I figured out what changes, the entire back with the bolt is moved away from the case.

    Lester

     
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    #45 antoninosavoca, Jun 10, 2019
    Hi friends i found a switch).It come from a Nissan car.
    I put a picture .
    Not necessary to spend 100 usd for original gold switch!
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    #46 antoninosavoca, Jun 10, 2019
    It is cheap ,i put in my Gt 4 ,it works perfectely ,you only must enlarge (just a little) the original hole.
    Ciao
     
  22. Andrew McCrae

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    #47 Andrew McCrae, Jun 10, 2019
    This is good. Well done. Any alternatives to the original should get posted. That way we are able to keep these fine cars running.
     
  23. Martin308GTB

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    #48 Martin308GTB, Jun 10, 2019
    Great find. But this is, where even I draw the line. Making 'adjustments', which are not reversible.

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  24. Saabguy

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    #49 Saabguy, Jun 10, 2019
    I agree Martin, unless it is so small as to still function with the original parts unnoticed.

    There is a mod to the Jag E-Type heater motor, using a Fiero heater blower motor. You have to increase the diameter of the access hole but it still hidden under a plate, never seen, and now actually blows air!


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  25. AZDoug

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    #50 AZDoug, Jun 10, 2019
    If switches with black plungers are disassemble able, it would be snap to lathe up a white plunger out of white delrin.
    Doug
     
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