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Gordon Murray's T50

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  1. Nuvolari

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    The numbers look incredibly impressive. I hope the styling is up to the performance figures. Still I'm really excited to see it.
     
  2. crinoid

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    Smaller than 911. V12. 650HP. 980 KG.
     
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  3. Igor Ound

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    #4 Igor Ound, Jun 5, 2019
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    It’s the new “fan car”!

    And looks like the P4/5

    Still don’t understand why nobody uses turbine wheels to extract air from under the car and create ground effect. Would also counter wheel spin.
     
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  4. boxerman

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    Awesome, and itd be really clever if it didnt cost 2.5 mill
     
  5. Ferrari 360 CS

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    This will be an incredible car. It has all the ingredients to be amazing, Murray knows what he is doing when it comes to designing car. Something like this makes far more sense than the frankly pointless top speed wars being waged by Koenigsegg with ever more over powered cars.
     
  6. nis1973

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    WOW! The only super/hyper car in a long time that I find exciting! Hopefully, it would change the conversation from stuffing more power into ever heavier cars to working on reducing weight. Horsepower is cheap, low weight is the true luxury...
     
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  7. crinoid

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  8. jpalmito

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    why autocar s renders are so crappy ?
     
  9. teak360

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  10. LMPDesigner

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    Fan car for the road? Pretty pointless. Will pick up crap from road and throw it in following car's face. And in wet you could not follow it. And why do you need a 3g road car? WHere you gonna drive it? Gonna pull 3g's slicing thru the roundabout in Milton Keynes?

    And who of us-be honest now-could drive it to it's potential on a race track?

    Maybe a clever technical exercise but kinda pointless otherwise.

    He had the right idea with his rocket. Small, light, puts driver in intimate connection with road. All these hypercar projects are technilogical dead ends. Yes cool to do but mostly just a way for a guy to tell the world 'Mine is bigger than yours".

    And turbine wheels on a street car would not do much. Ride heights on street cars are so high you can't really get much underbody suction from a wheel. Plus there is a lot of crap in way (brakes) that mess up airflow.
     
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  11. LMPDesigner

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    And 980 kg? Near 2200 lbs. Actually pretty heavy but then you are fighting a lot of weight growth from regs over last 20+ years. Still 2200 lbs isn't really very clever either.
     
  12. 95spiderman

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    very cool car from a cool guy but I have my doubts we will ever see it. how many of the scg cars has jim g made or sold? there are just too many choices in the hyper price sports car category to make biz sense. its strictly vanity project.
     
  13. 95spiderman

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    make 2500 lbs, 500 hp na motor revs to 10k, stick, hyper car style and sell at $250k.
     
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  14. roma1280

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    Ok so deposits are being taken (gbp 600,000) and cost is gbp 2,300,000 so assuming the current exchange rate of 1.23 plus $20k to fly it over, 2% import duty and say 7% sales tax that would come to a little over $3,100,000.
    I know someone who ordered one and he has in his hand a purchase order signed by Gordon.

    I’m intrigued by the car. Since 100 only will be made and McLaren F1 owners have been able to put deposits down for a couple of months now I am assuming they are not selling like hot cakes.

    Who will build it?
    Who will service it?
    Isn’t $3.1m a lot for a kit car?

    Is it going to be amazing and is it going to go up in value?
    I don’t know the answer to any of these questions.
     
  15. 95spiderman

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    interesting to see how back to basics hypercars compare to the electric versions. this vs lotus should be epic
     
  16. 4CamGT

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    Is it a kit car? A kit car is defined as a car that will require some assembly and fall under the Special Construction regulations in most states vs being a turn-key ready to drive vehicle that must comply with more rigid regulations.
     
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  17. roma1280

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    No it’s not a kit car to be fair. Apart from maybe the brakes it will all be custom.
     
  18. BMW.SauberF1Team

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    Brakes? Don't most companies outsource their brakes? Alcon and Brembo supply a lot of the supercars out there.

    Example for Brembo at the bottom: https://www.brembo.com/en/car/original-equipment/products/calipers

    Even Ferrari outsources aluminum bodies to Alcoa and I think still Magneti Marelli for their ECUs.
     
  19. cnpapa24

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    I think it will be incredible. I’d love to see a more developed design inside and out with more specs overall, which may be the reason people aren’t lining up to put deposits down yet. Yes, the price is steep, too.

    Canepa has been declared the authorized dealer / servicer in the US. I’m not sure if there will be others.
     
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  20. Jonathan19

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    The Track version of the T.50 will be extraordinary.
     
  21. Tenney

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    OA LeMans-winner ...?
     
  22. Jonathan19

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    #23 Jonathan19, Sep 9, 2019
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    Maybe we'll see in the future... All I can say is that the numbers and ambition for this version are high.
     
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    These half windows of the F1, Countach, etc. is there any structural value to this look or is it because the shape of the door prevents a fully retractable window?
     
  24. 95spiderman

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    hated those windows in the 70's and McLaren, murray still using them is ridiculous
     
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