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My dealer says this. Shall I do it?

Discussion in '360/430' started by Themaven, Mar 1, 2019.

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  1. Themaven

    Themaven F1 Rookie

    Nov 2, 2014
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    My 430 is in for its MOT (annual certificate of roadworthiness). No issues, but they suggested this:

    We noted that the gear selection operation is not a smooth as it should be , this can be improved by replacing the bushes and seals £548.00+ Vat


    It's a gated car. I hadn't noticed anything, but I'm no pro. Is it worth doing, or £650 down the drain? Suspension bushes, I would do, because that would sharpen up handling, but if it's a case of making the gate a bit smoother, not sure if it's worth it
     
  2. LARRYH

    LARRYH F1 Veteran
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    Jun 3, 2011
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    if it were me and the car drives ok I would wait until next time and see if it gets mentioned again...not really sure what they are talking about..but that is what I would do
     
  3. 360trev

    360trev F1 Rookie
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    There is a plastic piece which is a known failure point, it always breaks and has actually been re-engineered by Hills Engineering so if it where me I wouldn't replace it with the chocolate factory version which will indeed just fail again, I would get the hills one and do it once and for all!

    If you need more info let me know
     
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  4. 360trev

    360trev F1 Rookie
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    Aldos (Voicey) from AV Engineering has written about it here...

    https://aldousvoice.com/2012/09/29/ferrari-360-f430-gear-lever-bushing/
     
  5. Themaven

    Themaven F1 Rookie

    Nov 2, 2014
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    Trev, much appreciated. FChat's value shines through again! I will source one from Hill and get them to fit it next time. Thanks!
     
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  6. Skidkid

    Skidkid F1 Veteran
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    Both are great suggestions. You may want to replace that bushing with the HE and see how it goes. You can do more later IF needed.
     
  7. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Darius- Replacing that bushing is about an hour job for a pro. Certainly nowhere near what they are quoting. There are other bushings in the linkage and seals where the linkage enters the transaxle, but that bushing under the lever has been the real trouble-maker.
     
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  8. Need4Spd

    Need4Spd F1 Veteran

    Feb 24, 2007
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    The same bushing is used for 360 and 430 sticks. Really worth changing for the Hill Engineering part. The OEM plastic piece will fail if it hasn’t already. It’s the cause of most shifting difficulties on stick-equipped 360s/430s.

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  9. Mikael-F360

    Mikael-F360 Formula Junior

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    I changed this lever bottom bushing myself. It takes couple of hours and is easy to do with Voicey's good instructions. Really made a difference! I recommend it to everyone.
     
  10. cgfen

    cgfen Formula Junior

    Jun 1, 2015
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    Silly me.
    I bought this part, dug into the shift mechanism and found..................................................

    Someone had already replaced with the good hill part.
    I should have known when i saw the fresh grease in the shift tower.

    Now I have a virgin unused hill "bushing"

    Cheers

    Craig
     
  11. Need4Spd

    Need4Spd F1 Veteran

    Feb 24, 2007
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    Oops. Sorry about that.


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  12. Metastable

    Metastable Formula Junior

    So what are the symptoms of difficult shifting?
     
  13. RedNeck

    RedNeck F1 Veteran
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    Mainly, the shifting seems more difficult....
     
  14. Metastable

    Metastable Formula Junior

    Is it harder to push the stick into gear....ie lacks precision? or is the stick movement feel like it is stuck in molasses? Just wondering if you guys can elaborate a bit more. Thanks
     
  15. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Could be the wrong fluid in there. Happens sometimes.
     
  16. mike32

    mike32 F1 Veteran

    May 13, 2016
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    Is you go for the hill part, check that the dealer will fit a non ferrari part, some can be a bit funny about it. The hill part is the better fix
     
  17. Need4Spd

    Need4Spd F1 Veteran

    Feb 24, 2007
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    More like lacks precision, feels like it gets hung up on something and not move smoothly.


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