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Question about Ferrari F40 LM??

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  1. Ferrari27

    Ferrari27 Formula Junior

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    Certainly not a genuine LM. Highly modified road car by Cavallino Racing in the Netherlands in 1995 and raced in the Ferrari Porsche Challenge. Modified body, chassis, engine and suspension.
     
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  2. tomgt

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    This is the ex Oprey car
    He also owned the 348GT competizione 84248

    Here you can read about the Ferrari Porsche Challenge. Both the F40 and the 348GT were used in these events

    http://www.ritzsite.nl/Masters/fepo.htm
     
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  3. Ferrari27

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    Tom.

    Do you know of a site that gives more information on the cars and results in the Ferrari-Porsche Challenge races? This link seems to relate just to the Marlboro Masters of 1998.

    Robert
     
  4. tomgt

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    Hi
    No sorry
    Seen these cars often at Zandvoort in the 90s
     
  5. Ferrari27

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    Nothing to do with the original question but still a question about the F40 LM.

    There have been various stories about the construction of these cars (see posts #6 and #7 in this thread) but does anyone know how long it actually took Michelotto to build these cars? If 2000 man-hours is correct that could mean it took 2000 men just one hour, or it took one man 83 days (assuming he worked 24/7). Obviously neither of those scenarios is correct but how long did Michelotto have these cars for, from receiving them from Ferrari to them being ready for delivery? I know the delivery dates (although there are some differing dates in some of the lists) but are the dates that the cars arrived at Michelotto available anywhere?

    Thank you.
    Robert
     
  6. Ferrari27

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  7. Marcel Massini

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  8. PAUL500

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    Not a Michellotto car then, the fact it has the Pinninfarina badges confirms it was a road car to start with. The seller clearly knows this but tries to skirt around it.
     
  9. Marcel Massini

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    It was modified 1994 by Cavallino Tuning.

    Marcel Massini
     
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  11. BarryK

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    I inspected this car when it was up for auction at Coys the first time more than a year ago, and the engineering is totally different to the Michelotto cars. I very much doubt it shares anything with an LM. However, it has a good history on track in the hands of Oprey and others.
     
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  12. amenasce

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    Is the real F40 LM front lid much wider than the road car?
     
  13. Ferrari27

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    I agree that this car has a great history and for one of the racing conversions it would be a desirable purchase. Surely. The car was raced by Mike Hezemans and Patrick Huisman in addition to Hans Te Pas, David Hart and Michel Oprey. The Ferrari-Porsche Challenge would have been an amazing series to have seen in action and I am sorry that I was not interested enough at the time to pay more attention to it. However, this car has, I believe, remained unsold after auctions with Bonhams in December 2016, and Coys in January 2018 (despite reports online to the contrary) and February 2019. In addition, dealers have tried to find a buyer between the auctions. The history of the car appears to be as good, if not better, than many other Ferraris which have been converted for racing (or just converted to race-spec), it comes with spares, is well documented, and yet does not sell.

    Barry, did your inspection of the car give any clues as to why?
     
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  15. Marcel Massini

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    88779 is Michelotto F40GTE #5 (out of 7 in total). One of two sold new to Scuderia Ennea in Rome in April 1996, later to France. The second one to Ennea was 90001.

    Marcel Massini
     
  16. BarryK

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    I think #83405 also a Team Ennea car, and ran in Le Mans pre-qualifying in '95. Was this not an official Michelotto car?
     
  17. Marcel Massini

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    Raced by Oloffson-Della Noce-Ota in 1995 and DNF.
    Entered by Ferrari Club Italia.

    Marcel Massini
     
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  18. BarryK

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    #43 BarryK, Apr 26, 2019
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    Thanks for the information. Was this was an official Michelotto F40GTE or converted by someone else?
     
  19. Marcel Massini

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    Not Michelotto.

    Marcel Massini
     
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