This is what happens when you sell your cars to rich [] kids like these.

This is just perception, not reality. How am I going to get more rock chips at a track than on a 5K mile vacation where I'm interacting with cars and trucks that kick up that kind of stuff? And ALL Ferrari models are developed and tested on the Fiorano circuit; you are not doing any damage to them if you do a track day every now and again. In fact, I take my cars to the track for a final shakedown after I've restored them, to see if anything lets loose and fails. When I did that with my 456M, the seals on the rear shocks went bad (And they had already been rebuilt once). After they were redone under warranty, I drove the car from Texas to Virginia to do the Blue Ridge Parkway. Around 5K miles and perfect reliability. I can assure you, the car was in much more danger on the roads than at the track.

So while the cars that have been tracked may need a lower asking price, that is just a good deal for those who know that these cars are made to be competent on tracks.

All Ferraris can be restored to perfection given the money and expertise.

 

That’s exactly what I am talking about. Tracked cars needed more “restoration” to be equal to their non-tracked counterparts.

Also, cars that have been stood-on need more restoration than non-stood ones

Ergo, as far as “damages” are concern, tracked cars are comparable to stood-on cars.

Also, if an owners sell two Ferraris identically spec’d for the same price. One was kept for pleasure driving and other for track days exclusively. Same documented maintenance schedule for both cars because same mileage. you tell me you’d rather get the tracked car?

 

I bought my 456M with 7K miles on it, and it had been sitting for several years. It was super expensive to restore it to reliable condition; over $20K. It would have been in better shape if it had been driven more, even at a track a couple of times. I'm not afraid of buying any Ferrari that has seen a track a few times. The super low mileage examples that have been sitting most of their lives are the ones you have to watch out for, especially if they are much over ten years old. That has been my experience, anyway.

High mileage cars are another matter. With them you need some service history.

 

As far as the rock chips are concerned, most track cars have sticky tires that pick up pebbles and spit them at other cars following 10 ft behind going 100mph.
Most Ferrari driven on the street is driven on a Sunday where road etiquette tells the car behind yo keep a “safe” distance. If the following car gets too close, the leading car simply pulls aside and let following car pass. Much less chance of rock chips

 

Good point, forgot about that.

 

Hence why I don't track my car, nor stand on it!! LOL

 

It depends on where you live. If you are on LI and don't have PPF on the front, you will pick up rock chips almost every drive, even if you keep double the normal distance to other cars. Our roads suck!

 

This is not an issue for me, as beginner and intermediate classes are all street cars on street tires. There is often a hundred feet between cars. Much less traffic than a freeway stint.

 

because it's not a problem for you it's not a problem?
why are you arguing that tracking cars place them at more risks of damage (accident, wear/tear, rock chips) than driving them occasionally on the road? it's a well-known fact.

 

that's my point.
tracking, from a certain viewpoint, is as "damaging" as standing on cars. Yet some folks demonize only certain behavior.
let them stand their cars. they can fix it.

 

I think all the people are demonizing the behavior lack context. I think we all agree, it's not the smartest thing to start walking on any car (your own included) - nobody is debating that.

This is not a 'Jackass' move by a couple of knuckleheads 'just because.' I think we all agree if a kid just goes out and starts walking on their car for no reason..no bueno.

These are YouTube vloggers - and the photo makes perfect sense within that confine, logic dictates they got shoes fresh from the factory with no grime/dirt/rocks. I wouldn't be surprised if they cut chamois shoe sole shaped pads and taped them to the shoes before this 'stunt.' Even if they did damage their cars, the amount of attention and reaction the photo got proves they got exactly what they were looking for - and they can pay for any damage from the exposure the photo creates.

It's sort of like the cover of albums, some are purposely designed to be controversial and elicit a reaction.

Negative feedback is similar to criticizing the faux pas of this album cover.

 

The track is not a problem for me, so it's not a problem. And I don't drive my Ferraris occasionally, I drive them a lot. You also need to read the definition of fact. It is safer to be driving on a track with competent drivers who know the rules than it is to be on the roads with assorted morons. Track days are not racing. This was one of the best days I ever had driving. Then I went on a 4K mile week long vacation in the car. Many more dangers on the open road.
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If you don't want to do track days, don't do track days. But stop spreading misinformation that they will damage the car, because they don't. Every Ferrari model is developed on a track.

 

You can do track days if you want. Your car. Your decision.
You can stand on your car if you want. Your car. Your decision.

You can believe whatever you want. However, insurance and the market believe tracking is less desirable for cars for a reason.

 

Yes, and as I pointed out that reason is an unreasonable misperception.

 

I just wonder if the kids have not photo shopped themselves standing on the cars. Pretty difficult to tell if the job is well done.

 

I don't care if they earned the money to buy these cars are not. I wont let anyone even touch my car, these guys are idiots..........now standing on a Porsche........... As it has been shown again and again money cannot buy taste or intelligence

 

Absolutely, the pair of em are acting like total ****s. It doesn’t matter how much money you have or haven’t got, why wantonly damage any car, especially your own?

Just makes me laugh that these guys are today’s youths heroes, whereas back in the day when I was at school, *******s like them were laughed at and despised, and often wedgied and worse, just because they were wierd...... how times have changed. These days, Biff Tannen would be the hero of back to the future because of his videos of lighting his own farts and flushing nerds down the toilet while wafting dollar bills around

 

Did they? photos?

 

Can’t imagine standing on them does much good do you? Maybe bring yours over, I’ll stand on it, we’ll see

 

I hope they did that.

 

ha, that would be me allowing you to wantonly damage my car. Why would I do that?

 

YouTube isn’t that profitable for those who make videos.

‘Ads are only run on a minority of videos shown. Roughly, a video creator will earn $2,000 for every million views. "And then YouTube takes 45 percent," the Times notes. (The IRS will take its cut of the remainder, too.)’



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So now you are saying they would damage YOUR car by standing on it, but not THEIR cars? Sounds reasonable

 

Wrong if u monetize ur video u make what i mention. Plenty of videos and information. Ads are running IF ur account is approved for monetization AND u choose to monetize the video. Without ads u dont nake that much but once u are eligible and choose to do so u kake 7-8k per million; just ask doug demuro and his stupid video that just got him a ford gt.
Also hoovies garage was recently in the forum and confirmed those figures he made on his testarossa videos.


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I'm happy they can afford such great cars, but nothing for me at least will ever excuse standing on a performance machine like those cars are. It's gross.