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Need advice on selling car and mods

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by wasax.rc, Oct 29, 2018.

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  1. wasax.rc

    wasax.rc Karting

    Apr 1, 2013
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    All,

    Would love some input here. Unfortunately I need to sell my F cars (488/F12). Was wondering if you were a prospective buyer, how you would want view mods. Both cars are lightly modified (Capristo exhaust, HRE wheels and Novitec springs) and the mods have extremely low miles on them. Would you

    1. Return to stock prior to sell and sell parts individually and fully disclose.
    2. Keep as is and provide original parts and let buyer decide?

    I know some feel modification severely damage the value of the car and some are ok. Obviously tried to stay light mods but interested in input. Thank you in advance.
     
  2. 3POINT8

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    my understanding is that its better to return to stock. i just traded in my F430 and I believe they are taking off the tint, radio, etc. and those are even more minor of upgrades
     
  3. Gullwing

    Gullwing Karting

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    I wouldn’t buy a modified car. I just wouldn’t entertain it as there will be a feeling that it has been messed with.
     
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  4. GrigioGuy

    GrigioGuy Splenda Daddy
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    Return to stock. Every modification reduces your buyer pool.
     
  5. gobble

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  6. Caeruleus11

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    I would split the exhaust mod from the wheels, tires/ springs. But since you will have to do some work, you might as well put it all back to stock.
     
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  7. Viperjoe

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    Return the car to stock or decrease the prospective buyer pool and realize a lower sale price.


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  8. boobernackle

    boobernackle Formula Junior

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    What others have said, return to stock. Dealers will price accordingly when going for trade figures too. Sell the parts on the side, if you can get anything for them at all.
     
  9. cavsct94

    cavsct94 Karting

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    If you aren't in a hurry, maybe you can advertise them here with and without the mods, just to see what happens. Seems easy enough to say, "car can be purchased as modded or returned to stock for $ X."
     
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  10. LI2782

    LI2782 Formula Junior
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    List it nodded and see if the right buyer is out there. If it doesn’t go you can always return to stock and relist it
     
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  11. randkin

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    For Ferraris I think stock is always best. For other cars the mods may be appealing, if not too extensive/tastful and the cars is not a collectible or very expensive vehicle.
     
  12. SoCal to az

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    Post pics and details. You might have some prospective buyers here....
     
  13. Gh21631

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    Those add on's would not deter me but I would also want the stock items.
     
  14. Solid State

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    Its a good question. Only the wheels would show visual difference in the add so I would return those back to stock and offer them in the deal along with the original parts for exhaust and springs. This is assuming you did not go too low on the setup. The F12 responds superbly (properly I would say) to a bit of lowering and looks closer to the wheel gap on the F12TDF (which has the stiffer springs and bars). For sure some prefer full stock but these are not LEs so if it looks stock and you can offer the original parts or full convert back not an issue. A PPI will reveal any prior changes made anyway even if returned to stock so everything should be disclosed.
     
  15. wasax.rc

    wasax.rc Karting

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    Thank you all, really appreciate it.
     
  16. Ky1e

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    Those are common upgrades, I would leave it as is, but make clear you have the original wheels and springs as well. I generally add an exhaust to my FCars so I look at it as a plus. Make sure your responses are from people who actually buy Ferrari's
     
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  17. gobble

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    I've bought 3 Ferraris, a Lamborghini and a Porsche over the last 8 or so years. I won't even click an ad that has aftermarket wheels on the car. 1. I don't want to deal with having to put it back to stock and 2. I wouldn't want to buy from some of the people I know that feel the need to put fancy wheels on a car. I'd prefer to buy from the old guy that drives it to the country club vs. the gold chain guy that takes it to the dance club.

    You're limiting your buyer pool and would get more $ selling the parts separate.
     
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  18. Need4Spd

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    Those are pretty mild. But optics count for a lot. I suggest putting on the stock wheels, but leave everything else.


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  19. obbob

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    Generally only mods that are universally desirable are better left on the car.

    For example, Porsche GT3 owners would likely appreciate a center bypass exhaust and clear side markers.

    Ferrari buyers for some reason don't seem to like mods in general. I would say the only mods that are valued better on the car than off are carbon fiber part.

    I would remove the rest. You should be able to get 50% of MSRP for the Capristo exhaust. The Novitec springs will likely be worth little on or off. HRE wheels definitely take them off, you should get at least 50% of MSRP on those as well.
     
  20. TheDiffuser

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    I wouldn't advertise them with the mods on, as if they didn't sell and you returned to stock, buyers may feel a bit suspicious. I'd definitely remove mods to sell separately and sell those beautiful cars stock. Best of luck.


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  21. MANDALAY

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    For me I wouldn't even consider your car. Wouldn't buy a modified car even if it was wheels. Just my opinion it presents a negative to me of the owner. Put it back to stock and sell all the parts. Probably get more money and you wont alienate any prospective buyers.
     
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  22. Shadowfax

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    Mods on a car like this are massive detractor.

    Crazy as it sounds 99.9999% of used car buyers like to imagine they are buying a virgin so if the car is lowered with aftermarket wheels and an exhaust ask yourself what does message does that give?
     
  23. 1badass458

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    I may be interested in the HRE’s. Which style and rear tire size?
     
  24. dmark1

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    Yeah, return it to stock, so the buyer can pay to have it modified exactly like that again (sarcasm emoji).

    Sheesh, between that and the mileage obsession Ferrari owners border on insanity.
     
  25. noone1

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    It depends on the cost of returning to stock.

    The wheels and exhaust aren't going to be a big deal for a buyer, especially if the exhaust sounds good and is a name brand. The springs might be an issue though, especially if they lowered the car or made it more aggressive/rough.

    The mods aren't worth anything extra with the car, so if the cost of returning to stock isn't substantial, you'd be better off returning to stock and selling the stuff separately.

    You should list it as is anyway and see what happens. Maybe it sell with the mods at the price you want without the hassle of returning to stock. It couldn't hurt to try.
     

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