Considering selling my F430

I think you should get a 458... same transmission... "like a race car".

 

570s was extremely fast and nice but didn’t click any of my emotional buttons. Think it has a lot to do with the sound or should I say lack of. Test drove a 458 right afterward and right when I started her up for me it wasn’t even a decision between the two. End of the day though if you prefer the 570 get it you only live once


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I'd do it in a heartbeat, unless the F430 is a manual.

 

Don’t do it!! Lol. 570 def a nice car but feels too disconnected for me. I drove It a few times...

 

I guess the question now is when to get into a 570S.

I'm no fortune teller but I have a feeling the prices will continue to soften in the coming months & year. As more time passes, I'm also getting increasingly worried about my 600LT order...just look at the 675LT prices, owners lost their shirts, pants and then some buying those things new...I guess I'm just a poo-c and not rich enough because it's been worrying me A LOT.

 

My personal opinion is that the 570s is an incredible car. It has a better and tighter chassis than the 458. It feels smaller, faster and more nimble. It’s like an extension of your body.
However, I like the fit and finish/ interior of the Ferrari, the looks of the Ferrari, and of course the sound of the Ferrari. Another big bonus is that the club events on Long Island are great with the Ferrari and basically non existent for Mclaren. For those reasons, I chose to purchase the 458 this time around. I have to admit I came REALLY lose to buying the Mclaren instead!
My friend (who already has a Ferrari) was looking to either get a 458 or a 570 also. We went to test drive both, back to back within a few hrs. He agreed with all my statements above.........
He’s looking for a 570s now.
I guess it comes down to what you are looking for in the car. Neither is a bad choice. These are great problems to have.

 

I own a 570s and an F430 6mt. 570s is a great modern supercar. No doubt the 458 has easier ingress and egress, better exhaust note, not turbo lag, and the benefit of Ferrari building street cars for decades. Putting the sound and turbo lag aside, I found the 570s more engaging and much less expensive to purchase new. McLarenn is catching up with each new model on retail experience (initial delivery quality) and the dealer I use is exceptional. So, pros and cons to both. I did not sell the 430 as they are very different cars (and luckily I can afford both). As ferrari stopped building stick shifts, I believe it is tha Last and finest of the mid engine analog experience. In the case of the 570 and 458 they will eventually just be used cars replaced by newer cars that offer an improvement in almost every category v a comparison of an F430 with a stick (I realize your original question related to F1). My two cents. Sorry I don’t have a good perspective relative to an F430 F1 although I suspect for me I would prefer the 570. I have been driving stick shift for 40 years and been a heal and toe guy most of that time thinking I would never go to a transmission that did not come with three pedals and/or did shifting for me. I am amazed at how good the McLaren DCT is and how the computer frequently nails the downshifts perfectly based on braking and speed. My two cents. Even with all that, I am certain there is a more modern ferrari in my future at some point.

 

Those doors get old quick, I almost bought a 570GT, but if you have ever sat for 2 hours waiting for someone to move their car because you did not have enough room to open your cool doors, you will realize they are not that cool. I guess I am finally growing up (a bit) since my next Ferrari will be a F12. Those mid engine V8 screamers were fun but it is time for a change. I think the 570 is a great car, though comparing it to a 430 is a little unfair. I would rather have an AMG GTS (I bought one), for my needs it is a better all around car.

 

To add to this perspective...think of the 570S as a leap into equal 488 GTB performance at 50+% off.

 

570 performance is really good, as all McLaren. As long as you are in warranty, you are good.

Couple of friends have out of warranty mp12c. Explain McLaren maintenance cost to Ferrari owners is like explaining Ferrari maintenance cost to Toyota owners.

 

I agree. MP-12c was first model for a manufacturer that essentially is new to retail on a broad scale with a brand new dealer network. 570s is a very different animal than an MP12c and thus far looking at the McLaren forum, appears ownership experience improves materially with every model.

 

Basically he has a Ferrari already (along with many other cars). He's the type that likes variety. And the bottom line is that the 570s is a better bang for the buck. He's looking at 2012 458's with 12,000 miles for about &170k, or 2016-17 570S with under 2,000 miles for the same price.

 

Mclaren was still teething / going through growing pains with the MP12C, a lot of process, componentry and costs have been significantly streamlined since. If you think about it, it's mighty impressive how much progress they've made in 7 years. What a time to be a driver!

 

I own a 430 Spider (gated) and am reviewing a 570S which I picked up at the factory last week (I am a magazine editor).

The 570S is a better car by miles. Faster, quicker steering, better handling, better ride, good Auto mode, the list goes on, as it should, for a car that's 13 years newer. But I prefer my 430 and wouldn't swap it. For excitement, sense of occasion, thrill and fun, the Ferrari is better - for all those subjective things. I also prefer the interior. And the engine notes just can't be compared, the 570 sounds dull.

The 570 is also noisier on the highway, which surprised me.

 

It's very subjective. I am sure that if you asked 20 570 owners if they would prefer a 430 they would all say no..partly it's a gated manual thing for me. I would say that if you were tracking the car a lot, or if your only drive was a perfect rural road with twists and no traffic or police, where you could drive the cars at full pelt all the time, you'd also certainly take the 570.

But in the real world, the Ferrari has more character. For me..