Thoughts On Pagani

I feel that Pagani's fit a certain niche in the market. Some say they are what those other manufacturers you mentioned were in the beginning of their life, a small custom manufacturer that is driven by the single founder's ideals. I personally dont mind that they are using an AMG engine, obviously AMG is doing something right in many areas of racing and street car use. I feel that Paganis are true art in motion. Many have questioned their value in the market when an average F12 or 812 can keep up for a fraction of the price. Once again I feel they are the only automotive manufacturer in the market today that is creating ART. I dont question the value of the Mona Lisa, after all its just an old decaying painting. Different people will value things as they see fit. As you can probably tell I am a fanboy. So take my comments with a grain of salt, or the entire shaker if you wish.

 

They are art work. Probably won't get driven hardly at all so the engine is a mute point although it sounds amazing .

 

I'm not a huge fan of the Huayra, if I had the money I'd rather get a Zonda. That's due to the styling and n/a engine.

It's impossible for a small manufacturer nowadays to make their own engines. Actually, Pagani isn't even small, they're tiny.

 

Zondas are not US legal and might never be. It would only be a track toy I think. There might be a possibility to get a show and display clause for some driving?

 

They're driven loads actually....not many about obviously but mutliple examples out there with over 100K on them.

If I could have one car and one car only, A zonda 760 would be it. Cinque body, 760 wing, cinque paint scheme as well but in blue with tricolore stripe.

I like the Huayra but wish it had a V8 instead of Merc's turbo 12....

 

I've been to the factory twice (old and new) and what goes into a Pagani is truly amazing. You can look at the parts to be assembled, and each piece is a small piece of art, down to the bolts. The AMG motor used to rub me wrong, but considering Mercedes' recent dominance of F1, I've come to terms with it. Plus, the sound is nowhere near to your average Benz or AMG, and it was picked for a specific reason, so that helps too.

I have a strong preference for the Zonda, but having recently spotted a Huayra in Florida, they both pull the same type of reaction. The longer they keep building Zondas, the longer it'll be until they're able to import them into the US. I was lucky to spot the Barchetta in Greenwich driving down the street to be loaded, so feel super lucky to have caught that sight . . . and sound!

Overall, I think Paganis have the x-factor that you can't quite put your finger on. Certain Ferraris have it, Bugattis and Koenigseggs get close to having it, but spot a Pagani outside of a dealer, and there's no doubt.

 

For better or worse, pagani is the gianni versace of automotive design. Super high quality but very over done too. glad they exist though and horacio certainly belongs in automobile hall of fame for all hes accomplished

 

I think your comments are pretty spot on. The cars seem to be modern cars out of the past when embellishment and over the top details were the rage. I am thinking the French cars in particular, lovely to look at but not sure about being seen driving one. Just too out there, then the price is a whole other issue. Really paying for the uniqueness not necessarily performance. IMO


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I think they peaked with the Zonda F.

 

I tend to agree.

Koenigsegg is doing far more interesting stuff.

the big players (Ferrari/Porsche/McLaren/Lamborghini) have far greater resources for hybrid technology, etc.

I don't see where Pagani goes from here. besides becoming more "steampunk" I guess.

 

Not making their own engine certainly didn't bother McLaren with the F1 . . .

 

What Daniel said....If money was no object, this would be my choice. This product is pure art and absolute style.

 

i guess the discussion is missing a large point: spot someone driving an Aventador or a 488. die a dozen nowadays. Meh.. Spot a guy in a Pangani or a Koenigsegg now there you got a rare occurence.
It is all about what someone above called the Versace effect. They are beatuful and unique cars. I also respect the Bugattis in the same rgards even if the style is not my top choice. These things are the top dogs in style and mecahnical technologies.
And most of all, these are cars I will never be able to afford to buy and maintain. I hope those wo do truely understand how lucky they are and do fully appreciate them.
As for performance, if you really care about that tiny 10th of a sec, buy a tesla toaster. the hypemaker Musk claim a 1.9 sec 0 to 60.

 

You’ve answered your own question right here. If you don’t like the styling, why consider it?

 

The fact that they outsource the engine would not hold me back in the least. I was very impressed with the attention to detail on the one Pagani I’ve seen in person and thought it had a lot more style and character than its contemporaries. I am a vintage guy through and through but would consider the Pagani first if I decided to go modern.

 

Massive respect for the art work. I actually like the exterior but don't particularly like the interior. Well, I should specify that I'm not a fan of the gauge cluster and alike. Too much bling IMO. As far as the engines - I imagine the volume is just too low to support all of the development and manufacturing costs.

 

Mclaren still doesn't build their own motors.

 

engine builder Ricardo, plc
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